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Title: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: buttonfluff on October 17, 2010, 07:15:25 PM

Hi . I have heard this called the gray effect and similar and i wondered if it has a real term for this technique,now i have come accross this clear/white one  do i call it the white effect-or have i just missed the real term along the way ?? someone please put me out of my misery

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: langhaugh on October 18, 2010, 01:17:42 AM

I want to say feathered, but that's been taken for another technique (fenicio). I haven't seen this given a name anywhere. In fact, I don't think I've even seen the precise effect before. It looks like smears of colour with bubbles round the edges. How would you describe it as it's not totally clear in the pictures? It's relatively modern Nason piece, isn't it?

We could have a competition to provide a name. Would that help end your misery?

Nice bird, btw, whatever we call the technique.

David

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: TxSilver on October 18, 2010, 04:21:21 AM

I don't think "gray effect" is the name of a technique. It was just something that someone called a certain type of glass that caught on. I guess we could call this one "white effect." There is most likely a proper name for the mold used to form the sommerso vessel. Does anyone know what type of mold was used? I am assuming that such precise forming of the vessel could not be achieved by careful manual manipulation alone.

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 18, 2010, 03:57:05 PM

nice piece anyway- could be named " poisoned pidgeon "  >:D

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: buttonfluff on October 19, 2010, 01:38:01 PM

lol @ poisoned pidgeon its supposed to be a duck, ....i have always decribed it as fish scale pattern and the white is alot more delicate than the usual dark versions it looks like the "effect" is made from foamy fine bubbly glass this one looks transparent and lacy,it does look new to me...im very happy with new find 3 pound from the bootsale:)
It would be interesting to know how its made.

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: jinxi on October 19, 2010, 10:57:10 PM

Funnily enough, looking at this Kaj Franck piece the other day and yours reminds me of it - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220677449706&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: buttonfluff on October 26, 2010, 04:13:22 PM

It looks the same technique just chunkier to me-very nice ,thanks everyone and i will enjoy my duck /pidgeon .

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: Paul S. on October 26, 2010, 07:24:17 PM

following on from comments from jinxi - re Kaj Frank.......there is a piece in one of the Pina books with an internal 'white' spiralling type effect (again by Frank) of these almost hologram sort of images - although not so pronounced.   In the book this effect is described as ' gauze-like scales - so how about 'sommerso white gauze', or 'sommerso gauze'. :)

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: jinxi on October 26, 2010, 07:30:06 PM

So many options ... so many options....

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: TxSilver on October 26, 2010, 08:51:50 PM

I call the form "puddle duck" because it looks like the ceramic curious puddle ducks that are so popular in home decor. I have a pair of curious puddle ducks from Home Interiors. I wonder if Nason made these ducks in pairs (one up, one down).

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 27, 2010, 12:31:33 PM

I used to have a saved link to a wonderful site which showed images of literally hundreds of different internal decorative effects, with their names. It was with reference to the Italian names.
I've searched and searched through all my links and I can't find it, or it's been changed and I don't recognise it any more.

Does anybody know of this site? Has it vanished?

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: jinxi on October 27, 2010, 01:35:28 PM

Sue, was it The Loschs website?

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: jinxi on October 27, 2010, 01:53:21 PM

http://www.the-loschs.com/support.html

Just looked through the Italian and Scandinavian techniques shown there but I couldn't see it!

Veronica

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 27, 2010, 02:32:29 PM

 :rah:
That's the one! Thanks ever so much Veronica.  :-* It is a truly wonderful site.  :sm:
(but it would take me hours to go through it all, and I don't have time right now. I'll go through it later and see if I spot anything.)

I've got it bookmarked again. Don't know how I managed to loose it, :huh: but it has been updated and changed.  :thup:

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: inca on November 05, 2010, 02:47:35 AM

Quote from: TxSilver on October 18, 2010, 04:21:21 AM

There is most likely a proper name for the mold used to form the sommerso vessel. Does anyone know what type of mold was used? I am assuming that such precise forming of the vessel could not be achieved by careful manual manipulation alone.

I know that FM/Marcolin Ronneby have used a balloton mold, aka pineapple mold.
http://www.spiralarts.com/products/pc/Pineapple-molds-26p303.htm

Title: Re: Does this internal pattern effect have a name?
Post by: Anne on November 05, 2010, 01:43:02 PM

Sue, the domain address changed, that'll be why you couldn't find it.