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Title: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: deco.queen on October 28, 2010, 03:12:01 PM: Hi everyone,
I'm hoping someone will know something about this vase. It is 7 1/4" tall, the top is a 2 1/2" square. In the US Kopp and Consolidated made this style of "bumpy" shape and this one doesn't match either company. One suggestion from an old glass board here is that it was made in Czech. :X:
Thanks for looking!
Janice
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: uphoosier on October 29, 2010, 07:19:39 PM: Certainly looks like silver gray Ruba Rhombic, but the size is wrong.
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: obscurities on October 29, 2010, 08:39:36 PM: I can not think of the company name right now, but it is definitely an American piece of glass. It is much thicker and heavier than a Ruba Rhombic piece.

Craig
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: Ohio on October 30, 2010, 02:41:47 PM: I do not believe its Consolidated RR & am a bit doubtful on Kopp because the angles for either one are simply not crisp or sheer enough. There is one oddball that is somewhat along these line, however I do not know if they made a vase. Gunderson made a Waterfall candlestick that uses block type angles & thats the only US manufacturer I can think of that (in this instance) used large angles that encompasses the entire piece other than Indiana & we would have known long before now if it were Indiana.
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: obscurities on October 30, 2010, 02:46:52 PM: Is the mouth of the vase rectangular?
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: deco.queen on October 30, 2010, 03:49:45 PM: The mouth is square.
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: obscurities on October 30, 2010, 05:16:41 PM: Do you have a Kopp Catalog or reference you have compared to? I have had a Kopp Powder box in the past, and one of the defining points between a Kopp and Consolidated piece is the square mouth. I also know from handling, that the Kopp is heavier, and I found it generally to have less angular definition than than the RR.
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: deco.queen on October 30, 2010, 05:43:20 PM: No, I don't have a Kopp catalog. The group at chatabout said it wasn't Kopp. Here a picture from the top of the vase, chips and all.
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: obscurities on October 30, 2010, 06:13:32 PM: Personally, I would not rule Kopp out without seeing a book or catalog that shows all of their designs. IMHO the glass surface frost, angular definition and square mouth of this piece all fall directly in line with Kopp pieces I have handled.....

Craig
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: Ohio on October 31, 2010, 05:23:59 AM: DQ...below is a link to Jack Wilson's site & this is the Kopp link along with his smail addy. Jack will be able to tell you what it is in all probability if its Kopp. Ken
http://home.earthlink.net/~jdwilson1/kopphist.htm
Title: Re: Art Deco frosted glass vase
Post by: deco.queen on October 31, 2010, 05:40:44 PM: Thanks, Ken, I did email Mr Wilson and here is part of his reply; "It is Ramses glass, which apparently made all types of toiletry glass, such as powder jars and bath salt containers, which this is. Some of the Ramses pieces are marked "New York RAMSES Paris". The article I read on this vase identified RAMSES glass as being made in Germany." :rah: :rah:

Also; "We have started a Phoenix & Consolidated Art Glass Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phoenix-Consolidated-Art-Glass/146715138689576. Our Phoenix & Consolidated Glass Collectors Club also has a web site at http://www.pcgcc.org I would appreciate it if you would let your glass boards know that as some may be interested."