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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on October 28, 2010, 08:22:32 PM
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I have exhausted all my searches on this one. Either the colour or the shape or the finish or the size of the bubbles or the bubble effect is wrong - and I keep coming back to Erik Hoglund. However it is unsigned. I do have something to compare it to, but I have also been through what feels like nearly 100 Hoglund pieces and not seen anything in this shape. The purple one below is a signed Erik Hoglund.
Can anyone help confirm or deny please? It feels weight for weight the same as my other piece, the pontil mark is the same, the bubble effect is practically identical (and I haven't found a single other piece from another maker where I could honestly say that) and the colour is I think, one of his range. Although not as dark as the brown amber he uses, I have seen a few pieces in this colour. It is 17cm tall by 12cm wide and 8cm deep, with the front and back dimpled in towards the middle. It is smooth on the outside and on the inside you can feel the bubbles. This is the same with my purple one.
Help very much appreciated
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thanks
m
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Probably not Boda then, there are other candidates, Biot in France, then there is Poland and....
That Boda lilac is lovely though isn't it. :mrgreen:
John
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:sun: yep the lilac one is gorgeous - it's my favourite shape as well - I narrowly missed another one recently which was a different shape in the same colour, someone nabbed it before me and I could have cried.
Well I have been through what feels like the entire candidate list for Scandinavia (and found some fabulous glass along the way as you do ;D) , all my books as well, and Biot and a company called Tag Ltd Crystal - and I think Biot is usually marked somewhere. I definitely don't think it is recent recycled glass....Poland? well I shall take a look now. Thanks John :)
Has it been established that Hoglund pieces were always signed? I know Bill Geary mentioned that in a previous post but both Pip and Ivo have said they've had pieces which were unmarked.
The only thing that is confusing me is the design. I thought he had done a decanter dimpled front and back (mmm, could be wrong on that but thought I had seen one? :-\ ) so dimpled form is not unknown if that is the case.
thanks again
m
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Not every piece was signed, the little 'bowls' usually are not marked: http://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/ErikHoglund#5469374817245812962
Some Hoglund Boda items I have are signed H followed by a number. Some are signed Boda H number and one is signed Boda H number Hoglund. The lower the number the earlier the design.
This is the only lilac bit I have but it has come up a bit blue in this photo: http://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/ErikHoglund#5526930825535308018
John
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nice! the one I missed was like that :cry:
so it seems the larger pieces were signed then? In which case this probably isn't one of his - and if it isn't it is a jolly good match :o I'm more than happy to have it in my collection.
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I know Bill Geary mentioned that in a previous post but both Pip and Ivo have said they've had pieces which were unmarked.
The only thing that is confusing me is the design. I thought he had done a decanter dimpled front and back (mmm, could be wrong on that but thought I had seen one? :-\ ) so dimpled form is not unknown if that is the case.
thanks again
m
I think you may be mistaking me with someone else - I'm fairly certain all my Hoglund pieces were signed. Of course that doesn't mean he did sign everything (I'm not sure on that point) however my pieces definitely all had markings - sorry.
Re: your carafe - I suspect it's not Biot (France) - just based on a couple of pieces I've handled that my brother bought from Biot on a family holiday excursion during the late 60s/early 70s. I could be wrong though, it might be later production I don't know but my hunch is no.
Re: dimpled carafe - you might be thinking of the Bjorkshult dimpled carafe by Ronald Stennett Willson maybe?
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Oh sorry Pip - I was going by this thread and the comments in it in terms of signed or not?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5033.msg106612.html#msg106612
I have checked out Bjorkshult as well so yes I may be confused about that ref the dimpled decanter - thanks.
I will wait to get some hours together and go through the Polish glass sites next.
m
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oops - I'd forgotten all about that bowl! Yes, you're right, I have had one unsigned piece - sorry :)
Your carafe does look very Hoglund-ish though doesn't it? And the bubbles are right - I'd not discount EH yet anyway...
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I don't think it is a design by Hoglund, the rim doesn't look 'right'. Nothing to base this on, just a hunch and wild speculation. Sorry to be a party pooper.
John
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Not a party pooper at all John :) Despite this fitting in very well into my collection ( I love the shape) and the fact that the glass itself is a match for the purple one, I had my reservations because I hadn't been able to find a similar shape.
I had already researched it well before I bought it - and went ahead and bought it anyway :rah: So don't worry. If it did turn out to be his it would be a bonus. If not, I love it anyway.
If it turns out to be mass produced Chinese or Eastern European glass then all I can say is 'hat's off' in terms of quality and hope that millions of them don't turn up (because it will be that fact that will devalue it for me to be honest).
m
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I'm still searching on this one and probably barking up the wrong tree as John has said. However, I had another search and have come up with two pieces that bring me back to Hoglund as a possible again -
On this site there is one vase that has a flattened rim, although admittedly wider than mine and the neck looks obviously different, and in addition there are a couple of triangular vases that look as though they are indented on the sides as mine is. What do you think?
That reminds me, I must revisit a link you gave me John as I think there was a bubbly vase on there attributed to someone other than Hoglund
http://www.starkeld.com/prod_img/normal/5190%20Erik%20Hoglund%20glass%201.jpg
http://www.starkeld.com/prod_img/normal/5220%20Erik%20Hoglund%201.jpg
these just show the variation in the amber colourway and also the shapes/shoulders that aren't quite so defined as say my purple one is
http://www.starkeld.com/prod_img/normal/5185%20Erik%20Hoglund%20Boda%201.jpg
thanks for any thoughts.
m
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What do you think?
I think it is unlikely to be Boda, if you could find the same shape signed then that would be different.... Do you have any Boda examples in amber so that you can make a side by side comparison of colour etc?
That site is frightening, so many examples I would like to buy. :mrgreen: I found this one last week at a reasonable price, it's yummy: http://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/ErikHoglund#5556223501044291298
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;D yes, I know, I am clutching at straws.
I was wondering also Magnor? Did they do these random smaller bubbles?
mm, I love that site as well and at the moment they have a large selection available ;) very tempting >:D
m
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Two flattened vases in light amber with random bubbles, pontil mark polished out. Leerdam des. F. Meijdam, 1970s. No marks.
Not saying yours is one too, but both colour, finish and bubbles are strikingly similar.
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Ivo, thank you so much for the pics! I looked back through other posts and saw your references to Lindshammer and Leerdam and have been searching trying to find pictures. My books are not specific enough to cover either.
My vase has a definite casing of clear amber on the base, do the Leerdam ones have this please?
thanks again for all help, I appreciate it.
m
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Ivo your 'ball' shaped vase is lovely. :mrgreen:
John
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My vase has a definite casing of clear amber on the base, do the Leerdam ones have this please?
Sorry unable to answer that until the next time I unpack one of these vases; all Leerdam is in storage and my photographs do not show if the casing is clear or amber.
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ok thanks Ivo.
m