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Title: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: uphoosier on October 29, 2010, 02:30:25 PM
Any opinions as to the age and origin of this decanter are welcome.  Lovely raspberry prunts on the stopper, ground out and polished pontil. There is also a bit of white debris in the glass.  Perhaps Italian early 20th century?  Thanks for looking.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13573 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13573)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13572 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13572)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13571 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-13571)
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: glassobsessed on October 29, 2010, 04:33:51 PM
Reminds me of this sort of thing: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,36860.0.html

John
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: uphoosier on October 29, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Yes, it does look similar but without any decoration, engraved or enameled.  I looked at a couple of Italian glass catalogs from 2009 and they had decanters with similar prunts on the stoppers.  None of them sold, so I makes me wonder if they were mis-identified by the auction house or if they are like all sorts of decanters - out of favor and no buyers.
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: johnphilip on October 29, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
Looks Germanic to me .
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: jinxi on October 30, 2010, 06:19:44 AM
I think the same as JP
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: glassobsessed on October 30, 2010, 07:43:43 AM
You can get help for that Jinxi. ;D

John
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: johnphilip on October 30, 2010, 09:20:58 AM
One word for you John  BaaaH . :thup:
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: uphoosier on October 30, 2010, 10:38:31 AM
Thanks, all.
Ken
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 30, 2010, 10:41:09 AM
definitely Theresienthal !
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 30, 2010, 02:40:04 PM

Does the decanter glow madly under UV light? - nice thing!
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: uphoosier on October 30, 2010, 04:07:56 PM
It actually doesn't glow at all, but I'm still pretty pleased with my $5 thrift store find.
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: glasseyed on October 30, 2010, 08:08:09 PM
Hi Thomas

What date do you think it is?

Hazel :fr:

Was sunny now raining.........
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: Theresienthaler on October 31, 2010, 07:30:48 AM
Well,

in my humble opinion: it is definitely not Theresienthal. :cry:
Although it is now to be sold on ebay as Theresienthal. http://cgi.ebay.de/Antique-Art-Glass-Theresienthal-Decanter-/170559873711
Am i right: Found for 5$ and to be sold for minimum 279$ ??? :hiclp:
Please notice: Not every vessel with prunts was made by Theresienthal!

Kind regards

Stephan

http://www.roemer-aus-theresienthal.de
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 31, 2010, 09:53:17 AM
hm who else has made it then ?  :huh:
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: Ivo on October 31, 2010, 10:24:53 AM
Ehrenfeld, Oberglas, Poschinger, Heckert - take your pick.
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 31, 2010, 10:43:56 AM
Koeln- Ehrenfeld sounds good to me in that case .. !
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: uphoosier on October 31, 2010, 11:09:06 AM
I have no problem changing the listing.  It certainly seemed that Theresienthal was the consensus here at the time I listed it.  Note that I did not suggest such an attribution at all at the time I first posted here.  Please also note that the price paid for an item is not in the least a determinate of the price asked for it upon sale.  Anything in your collection you would not sell for 10 or 20 times what you paid for it?  If you wish to purchase the decanter, you are certainly free to make an offer. 

Thank you for your comments.
Ken
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 31, 2010, 12:15:45 PM
There are loads of things in my collection I would not part with for 100 times the price I paid.

(*smug git*)  :sun:
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 31, 2010, 12:30:02 PM
i am defintely sure that i bought a few items for too much - but then - years later - i think they are cheap at the todays point of view .. !
but anyway its not about the money - collecting is fun - research is fun - to clean them and use them and in the evening with a cigarette and a glass of wine just to sit down and watch them ! and we all know that we can“t take anything with us on our last day.. !
so : carpe diem  :rah:
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: uphoosier on October 31, 2010, 12:37:24 PM
I am at an age  that I have accumulated so much, I can't keep anything new unless something else leaves.  I told my wife that I was going to price this decanter high.  If it doesn't sell. I will keep it and get rid of something else.  She gave me an evil look and said, "What are you going to get rid of?"  I didn't have an answer - yet.
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: nigel benson on November 03, 2010, 12:54:34 AM
Quote
Please also note that the price paid for an item is not in the least a determinate of the price asked for it upon sale.

I have no problem with that, after all that is partly what dealing is about. Unless of course the price being asked bears more relation to asperation than to reality, therefore making the item overpriced  :o :huh:

Nigel
Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: Theresienthaler on November 03, 2010, 04:38:13 PM
Whether the price being asked bears more relation to aspiration than to reality will be answered by those who are going to buy or to buy not at this price.
Of course i have an idea, but :nogos:
Kind regards

Stephan

Title: Re: Green decanter with raspberry prunts - origin?
Post by: nigel benson on November 04, 2010, 02:14:36 PM
Sorry Stephen,

I obviously didn't make it clear enough, my comment, was general, not specific to your sale. Since you've drawn attention to it in your reply, of course your quite right, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating ;) :)

Nigel