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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: chrisffc on November 07, 2010, 04:23:43 PM
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Hi all hope you are well.
Any ideas with this huge and very heavy art glass vase. Top looks kinda Murano...ish. Base and colours lead me to think Czech, Chribska maybe. Almost 15" tall. No pontil to base. Thanks Guys :)
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Chinese I would say.
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I can see where your coming from, however the quality is far better than any chinese pieces that I have seen.
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Don't discount Chinese because of the quality - China has been producing some superb quality glass in recent years. While I don't immediately recognise your vase I agree with Christine in that it is very typical of current Chinese production. These chunky, broadly Murano style pieces seem mainly destined for export and a lot have been turning up in the UK lately. I'd advise anyone with an interest in contemporary glass to go to China and take a look at the glass being produced their for the domestic market - some of it is absolutely superb and easily rivals the best European art glass.
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Big heavy lump, thick glass, generic shape, bright garish colour, all adds up to likely Chinese.
Can you rotate your photos in future? My neck can't handle the angle. :usd:
John
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I'd agree with Christine and Steven,I got this a while ago and hoped it was modern 'Murano' I've since been told and have seen a number similar that it's Chinese,
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Good future in Chinese glass, then everyone will be moaning about African.
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Good future in Chinese glass, then everyone will be moaning about African.
Ah, that sort of economic thing interests me. But Chinese will take a while:
Cheap art glass that has to be made by hand by skilled workers is always doomed in the long run in a capitalist society. Handmade glass blowing is skill intensive, so you have to reward it appropriately if people can choose have easier jobs for the same amount of money - hence it will become too expensive for common use and you end up with the prices Orrefors and Kosta Boda have to charge for their art glass. The only reason Polish and Chinese glass is still somewhat affordable is that they are moving out of a communist society and worker's wages haven't caught up yet. In a few years or decades, these glass industries will fold or move to machine produced glass. Polish art glass will be the first to go, I'd think. China may take a while longer, though, so far they manage quite well to have loads of very poor workers around to keep wages down.
So, whenever you hear of Chinese wages rising spectacularly, it becomes time to hang on to your Chinese future collectibles - and if I'm right, investing in Polish glass will be a quicker way to profit :)
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For those who can't afford to go to China, go to TKMaxx.
That, I'm assuming, is where the folk who are selling these as "marano" or whatever, are buying them in the first place.
I've seen these big heavy bits with these big bubbles in, there.
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ok I'm not saying it is the same, but there is a vase on fleabay number 110607019789 which is pink and clear and has large bubbles and has a Czech glass label (mind you on my recent glass buying history that's nothing to go by :-[ )
m
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When I first saw the piece, I only saw the bubbles, and I admit my first reaction was Czech, either Skrdlovice or Harrachov. But when I looked at the rest of the piece, I changed my mind very quickly to Chinese.
So I understand where you see the similarities--bubbles and colour--but overall quite different from Czech.
David
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Some of the Chinese ones just don't look right. The proportions are off somewhere, like this pink one. And the size; it's huge, half as tall again as the Beranak one.
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The identity crisis of Chinese pieces may be due to the fact that around ten to fifteen years ago, Polish glass workers restructured the Chinese glass industry and that Chinese glass makers were trained by Polish instructors, using Polish machinery for annealing and finishing. Since then, the Chinese have improved on models, colours and techniques from Poland, and even developed a distinct style of themselves.
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Skrdlovice did some pretty big pieces, too. I've got one that's almost 20 inches, but Christine is right in that the proportions and general feel of the pieces are quite different.
David
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My point about size is if it's huge, think twice. Do the research first unless you simply want to own it or can stand the financial loss.
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This is not Skrdlovice piece and also not Chribska.
Jindrich
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