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Title: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: jonchellycain on November 07, 2010, 05:12:50 PM

HI all
picked this up in a massive job lot of paperweights yesterday. Ive found 2 websites with the same looking weight one stating its a PP1 the other saying PP6. Also one says its pre 1979 when they started using the P cane on all of these weights the other says pre 1978, I know its a close one but which (if any) is right?
Size is 7.5cm wide
outer to inner row 2-2-1-1 formation 3 centre rows, no P cane on a black (deep purple) ground
As always many thanks
Michelle
http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/37/17/66/100_6921.jpg
http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/37/17/66/100_6922.jpg

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: jonchellycain on November 07, 2010, 05:29:11 PM

OK found another site which says the PP1 has 13-14 spokes PP6 has 12 and that this one (PP6) would date between 1969-1978 due to no P cane

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: rbm6167 on November 07, 2010, 05:34:13 PM

Hi
It looks remarkably similar to the PP1 shown at this link (again courtesy of Frank Andrew's Scotland's Glass site) which only has 12 spokes.
John

http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=186&Itemid=6

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: jonchellycain on November 07, 2010, 05:44:14 PM

 :huh: now i am confused
here's one doesnt give a PP number
http://www.paperweights.com/perthshire.htm
This one says the PP1 is 13/14 spokes
http://www.paperweight-mall.com/pagepp1.html
This one says PP1 but only has 11 spokes
http://www.justglass.co.uk/Perthshire/1479K.htm
?????

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: Frank on November 07, 2010, 07:43:12 PM

The designs varied within PP numbers, thoroughly confusing of course  :usd:

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: Wuff on November 07, 2010, 09:32:58 PM

PP1 was large size (3" = 7.5 cm) and pre-1978 weights had a fire polished base and no P cane; number of twists, colours and canes varied.

PP6 until 1971 was only medium. 1972 to 1977 it was large, same design as PP1 ... but:
- central P cane, and
- base hollow ground.
PP6 was discontinued after 1977, when PP1 became signed and with hollow ground base.

Conclusion: the weight in question is a pre-1978 PP1.

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: jonchellycain on November 07, 2010, 11:45:07 PM

Thanks so much for cutting through the confusion Wuff, will have to store this one to the memory banks (more likely find this thread everytime i forget ... my kingdom for a decent memory).
Thanks everybody  :thup:
michelle

Title: Re: perthshire millefiori paperweight pp1 or pp6 ?? also pre 1979 or 1978 ??
Post by: jonchellycain on November 08, 2010, 10:11:30 AM

Just added the rest of the paperweights i bought in the job lot to the cafe
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37165.new.html#new
cheers
michelle