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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on November 19, 2010, 10:18:14 PM

Title: id request for Carnival plate.
Post by: Paul S. on November 19, 2010, 10:18:14 PM

I have tried Pamela's pics. - Sowerby, some Rudolfova/Inswald and Brockwitz  -  but I may have missed it somewhere, of course.  So grateful if one of the Carnival experts can assist please.  Diameter is 8.5" - 215mm - and has a rounded type foot rim  -  not the pre second war style of ground rim  -  so am guessing more recent in date.       My thanks in advance.  Paul S.

Title: Re: id request for Carnival plate.
Post by: Paul S. on November 19, 2010, 10:21:23 PM

sorry, one of those should of course have been the front side - as here. :-[

Title: Re: id request for Carnival plate.
Post by: Mosquito on November 19, 2010, 10:24:04 PM

I'm fairly certain this is Sowerby, I don't remember the pattern name, but I'm sure Glen will know.

btw. the lack of a ground footrim doesn't always mean a later date, just depends on how the piece was finished. Ground footrims tend to be earlier as they show the piece was hand finished & not made on a fully automated line, but the opposite is not always true; for example, if a piece was held by a spring punty to fire polish it there'd be no need to grind the foot.

Steven

Title: Re: id request for Carnival plate.
Post by: Anne on November 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1469.0.html 8)

Title: Re: id request for Carnival plate.
Post by: Paul S. on November 20, 2010, 09:22:26 PM

Steven - thanks for the explanation re styles of foot rim.   Very enlightening, and must admit I was unaware of this.   
Anne  -  appreciate your help, as always -  so id would appear to be possibly Czech or English  - and must admit I also had a feeling that it might have been this side of the water - but would bow to Glen's expertise - so will label as indicated.  However, not sure I would agree with 'common' - from memory this is the first one I have seen, although I don't go around specifically looking for Carnival.    I thought for a moment the name was being given as 'Crumpet' plate - actually I like them for tea, very tasty, crumpets ;)

Title: Re: id request for Carnival plate.
Post by: Glen on November 25, 2010, 07:48:50 PM

Paul, there are at least 5 of these Crimpit plates on eBay UK in the Carnival section, right now.   :ooh:

When I first started collecting Carnival (in the early 1980s) they were absolutely everywhere. They are still around, at car boots and so on. I wish I could pin down the maker, but I can't, despite studying more catalogues than I care to enumerate.  :spls:

I feel comfortable saying "European manufacture".  :P

Glen