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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: lyndhurst44 on November 30, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
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Picked these up way way back in the lovely summer, whatever happened to that! I thought they could be by Michael Polowny but the main colour confused that opinion. Can anyone confirm or deny before I list the small pedestal bowl. Thanks
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1 more photo.
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And another. I've been having problems resizing my images on my imac and I may have, at least, partially solved it tonight.
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Hi
can you also post some pics of the bases please? I'm sure they are very distinctive and may be easily recognisable (and I know I can't help id them ::) ) but pics of the base can help.
Many thanks
m
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The bowl is an example of Loetz Ausführung 218. Ausf 218 is a solid ground with a connecting pad of contrasting color between two parts. Most commonly found with a rim of the same color as the pad. The candlesticks are also, in my opinion an example of Ausf 218, without the applied rim color, but with the contrasting connecting pad and solid ground.
They are not a Powolny design. Powolny designed far fewer pieces for Loetz than he is credited with on the internet, and these would not fall in the category of product he did design. He was not involved in the design of Ausf 218.
The internet myth that he was responsible for Tango, and a large number of other decors for example, is just that..... an internet myth.....
Nice set.....
Any marks of any kind inside the bases?
Craig
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Hi,
Thank you so much for the information :chky:. I know there was a debate some time ago regarding whether or not Powolny was responsible for the three handled pieces that he had always been associated with. I think the conclusion on that was that they were Loetz but not actually his design. I can't remember who they were attributed to though. With regard to the question by flying free, the base area is actually open on all pieces. On the bowl you can see through the pedestal to the base of the bowl and on the candlesticks the whole piece is hollow. There are no makers marks on any of the pieces. I should have added that to my original listing. I was having so much trouble resizing my pieces for the topic that I was quickly losing the will. >:( I actually have a pair of cobalt blue trailed orange Kralik vases that were displayed at my grandparents home in the 1940's and passed through the chain to me and I am now 66. They have a solid base.
Once again thanks for the info, I really am delighted. ;D
One other question, did you notice that the candlesticks are not even in size, one having a thicker rim than the other. Before I composed this topic I was considering taking them to a local glass restorer to have the rim on the taller piece resized. A wise move?
Bryn
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One other question, did you notice that the candlesticks are not even in size, one having a thicker rim than the other. Before I composed this topic I was considering taking them to a local glass restorer to have the rim on the taller piece resized. A wise move?
No, they're old and handmade and that's the way things are.
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Than You Christine, they shall remain as they are ;).
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Christine's comment seconded, don't touch them, my poor insides were shrieking, "no, no, no!" before I got to read her post!
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Hello,
It would appear that the "taking it to a glass restorer" question has been answered sufficiently.....
The three handled pieces in two colors are classified as Ausführung 162. There are three variations of the decor. Standard classification is in two colors, the handles being a different color than the ground. Second is this same basic decor with enameling done on the body. The third and less common variation on the decor is three handled Cameo pieces. Although the decor has been shown to not be by Powolny, it has never really been attributed to any specific designer. The shape is said to have been inspired by Marie Kirschner designs.
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Hi Craig,
Thanks again for the info. Remarkably earlier today following a conversation on glass, of course, I was lent a copy of an old US magazine entitled Czechoslovakian Collectors Guild International Volume 1 issue 1 which is dated Spring 1995. The front page cover reads The Art of Michael Polowny the Master. I must have borrowed this before or seen it whilst visiting my fellow glass collecting friend as I could remember some of the contents. The mag actually concentrates on the aforementioned 3 handled vases which were attributed to MP. How times move on, hey!.
However there is an excellent section on the colours used both solid and contrasting together with their rarity values. Unremarkably, my pieces are referred to as being "light blue" the only other blue being "Periwinkle" which is quite dark. There are light blue pieces shown with both black and also white rims/pads. Good reading. I do love this hobby, it keeps me semi sane!
Thanks again,
Bryn
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Hi, I believe the article you are referring to is an infamous one written by Wes Nedblake. It is an article which was not really based on many facts.... apparently a common practice for Nedblake at times. There were several articles in other publications which rebuked Nedblakes assertion that Polowny was responsible for as much as Nedblake claimed.
That organization was later disbanded, and since Nedblake was the founder, back issues of the magazines have never been available since then. I have been advised by very knowledgeable people to take everything in the articles written by the gentleman with a grain of salt....
Craig
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Yes that's the guy Craig. Pity i was quite enjoying reading his piece. There are a few other contributers though. There is an article on Czech Perfume bottles which seems OK. My wife has a few of the less elaberate examples, in fact I am selling one of her duplicates on Ebay at the moment.
Cheers,
Bryn
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His articles are the only ones you really need to be a little wary of the accuracy.... As far as I know, other contributors to the publication were pretty informative and accurate....
Craig