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Title: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 11:34:57 AM

Christmas is coming - i was lucky and could buy a nice hock glass which was up for auction in germany - for a rather reasonable price .. ! :rah: :rah:

and i could find some rather similar ones at fieldings auctioneers .. very expensive  >:D



http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/resultsLotDetails.asp?lotsID=54243&menuItemOn=2&salesID=88&hasImage=1

http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/resultsLotDetails.asp?lotsID=54245&menuItemOn=2&salesID=88&hasImage=1

http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/resultsLotDetails.asp?lotsID=54242&menuItemOn=2&salesID=88&hasImage=1

here is mine ( height 20 cm )  :sun:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: Leni on December 04, 2010, 11:45:12 AM

Quote from: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 11:34:57 AM

Christmas is coming - i was lucky and could buy a nice hock glass which was up for auction in germany - for a rather reasonable price .. ! :rah: :rah:

Very nice!  :thup:  I like yours best!   :mrgreen:  ;D

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 11:50:48 AM

thank you so much  :kissy:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 04, 2010, 01:31:08 PM

Very pretty indeed, Thomas.  :rah:
Do you actually drink hock?

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 01:45:47 PM

thx dear sur  :sun: - i like styrian white wine

 
http://www.steirischerwein.at/mgwein/index.php?id=1095&PHPSESSID=aec3160bfd14d50d71a1881534bc5a95
.. but only in summer !!

- in winter i prefer heavy Rioja wine  :sm:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 04, 2010, 02:24:37 PM

I gave up drinking a long time ago - before good wine hit the shops here!  :cry:
I have memories of sweet cheap(ish) hock - not the most pleasant stuff around. :-X

I get to sniff Michael's (red) wine though.  A decent Zinfandel or Pinot Noir appeals.

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 04:40:52 PM

oh like zinfandel too :rah:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: Paul S. on December 04, 2010, 04:51:28 PM

Thomas - they are all breathtaking congratulations -  actually, you keep the Styrian wine  -  I'll take the girl with the stud earings (do you have her phone No. please) >:D

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 04:53:47 PM

dear paul - looks a little bit to young for you  :24:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 04, 2010, 05:10:40 PM

I don't know - her teeth look like dentures - all white and even - completely false, yuk!
She might be older than her face looks!
Botox and surgery, not to mention airbrushing of photos almost make the appearance of an actual model unneccessary these days!  >:D

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 04, 2010, 05:12:47 PM

and i am quite sure she is not austrian as well ... :ra:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: rosieposie on December 04, 2010, 05:36:27 PM

A lovely glass Thomas....might we be able to see some of your collection sometime please? :-*

Quote from Sue:

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I gave up drinking a long time ago - before good wine hit the shops here! 
I have memories of sweet cheap(ish) hock - not the most pleasant stuff around.

Can we take it then that you were previously known as brahms-liszt Sue? :wsh:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 04, 2010, 06:35:44 PM

 :nogos:
That was back in the days when I tried to get credit from a bottle-bank, Rosie!

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: johnphilip on December 04, 2010, 08:10:06 PM

Yes Thomas your glass is numero uno , the glass i dream of finding in the charity shop :X: i see you drink one of my favourite wines Faustino 1 probably chased by Juan Carlos 1 from a suitable glass , have you tried a good Italian red Barolo to wash down Wild Boar or a simple Rabbit . Keep up the good work SEASONS GREETINGS Johan Von Trilsbach , alias JP  :fc: :sg: :sn: :hi: :ho:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: oldglassman on December 05, 2010, 10:34:34 AM

Hi Thomas , your wine selection is as impeccable as your Claret jug selection , I first began drinking Paterninas Faustino N#1 back in the 80s I think before anybody in this country had any idea about the good wines that came from that particular vineyard,I used to travel to Liverpool especially to buy that 1(£4.50p a bottle!!!!!!! at the time ) and also malts from the cask,the cellar owner also had a Spanish restaurant and at each visit was treated to  a meal on the house ,(probably because my friend and I always filled the car to capacity on each visit), once he had only 3 bottles of Paternina Gran Reserva dated 1955 and he gave me one , yuk!!!!!! it was horrible ,needless to say the consumption has gone down greatly over the years and my preference now is for Sancerre and Puilly Fume which I collect on  trips to stay with friends in the Loire Valley, so this Christmas will be stocking up again from the vineyard , though the local(Loire) reds are also very good.

I still say the best taste is achieved from a nice 18thc goblet though !!!!! :thup:

 :cheers: Peter.

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 05, 2010, 10:51:43 AM

hi Peter

i must admit the wine you selected are great ones - especially the sancerre and of course Pouilly Fumé .. but you know before you can use the 18 century goblet you need a nice silver mounted claret jug to decant a fine red wine  :sm:

all the best , Thomas

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: oldglassman on December 05, 2010, 11:02:04 AM

Hee Hee     you have the 'jugs',,,,,, :hiclp: I have the glasses :hiclp: ,,,,,, we both love the wine ,lets have a party :dance: :band:   and even now i can sometimes be usefull in providing the music  :mus:

 :cheers:

Peter.

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 05, 2010, 11:22:44 AM

yeah lets have a great xmas party :fc: :fc:

and on the next day ... :sick: :sm: :P

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: Bernard C on December 05, 2010, 04:34:21 PM

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10318/normal_DSCF1041.jpg)

Thomas — I couldn't help noticing that the feet of your lovely glass and the three Fieldings examples have a striking resemblance to the feet of my Mystery set of tiny tazzas, comports or sweetmeats (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37211.0.html), which I queried here a few weeks ago.   Unfortunately the discussion headed off in the direction of purpose or function rather than attribution. These minitazzas have a finely cut star base with the profile of an eight-petalled flower — which I've not seen elsewhere. I would be most grateful for a photograph of the foot of your glass for comparison. Have you seen this base star by other manufacturers? Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 05, 2010, 05:17:06 PM

hi Bernard !

yesterday was the auction i bought the glass at - as soon i receive it ( couple of days ) i will send you an image  :ru:

and i have seen these star many times before often used for glass inserts ( bohemian i think )..

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 06, 2010, 11:20:05 AM

I'm sure I've seen that cut, exactly, on large deep side-plate things, in several donations to Oxfam. Also around antiquey centres, where they sit and collect dust. They're not uncommon, Bernard.

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: Bernard C on December 06, 2010, 12:02:18 PM

Sue — I thought I had, until I looked at the profile of the cut star.   Most, if not all of the profiles I've seen have been swagged, like telephone wires, or just plain circular.   The difference is quite small.

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 21, 2010, 03:08:15 PM

received my beauty now .. the same burst star like Bernard posted .. !!

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: rosieposie on December 21, 2010, 03:40:14 PM

That is a really stunning glass Thomas, all the lovlier with the light shining through it....is the flower a Fritillaria or a Campanula,  or just a fantasy flower?
How do they achieve the two colours without cutting through to the clear glass, and is there a special name for the technique?

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 21, 2010, 03:49:56 PM

thx rosieposie - i think it could be both - tend more to campanula - i found out that the first layer is yellow then blue - which gives actually greenish in some parts of the glass ..i only know that it is called double cased - must be really difficult not to go to deep ... but don´t know how it is done .. :or:..actually it was really a bargain at an german auction and i am quite sure i won´t get a similar glass for a reasonable price in the future.. :cry:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: rosieposie on December 21, 2010, 04:10:02 PM

Well it is lovely, so much art work in such a small area,  enjoy your Christmas drink in it Thomas. Cheers!!  :fc:

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: claretjugcollector on December 21, 2010, 04:15:35 PM

thx and cheers - i think i had :ru: too much alreadyyyyyy

Title: Re: Stevens & Williams double cased hock glass ...
Post by: rosieposie on December 21, 2010, 04:22:54 PM

Thomas,  you look more like Rudolph!! :ru:  I think you are a claretjugemptyer!!