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Title: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 19, 2010, 08:29:01 PM
Hi All,

Can you please help me with this ID.  I've searched American glass makers and British glass makers but I'm not having any luck.  Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h347/tbeck3579/DSC03612.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h347/tbeck3579/DSC03611.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h347/tbeck3579/DSC03618-Copy.jpg
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: rosieposie on December 19, 2010, 11:26:38 PM
Just to let you know I have spent all evening on this, and now I am hooked on glass baskets!! :thud:

Something that may be relevant....the pattern on the base appears to be Celtic in style....so could it be a British maker?

Whomsoever the maker, it is quite the nicest of all I have seen this evening.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 20, 2010, 02:35:34 AM
Thank you so much for looking.  I had thought it would be British as well but I didn't have any luck finding it.  Thank you for the compliment  :) and thank you again for trying!
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on December 20, 2010, 05:50:49 AM
I have had quite a few very similar baskets in clear glass and uranium which have been marked sowerby, I do not think it is Davidson , Henry Greener may also made similar baskets, I do have  a clear basket some where , I will try to find it and see if it matches your basket pattern

Roy
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 20, 2010, 07:40:29 AM
I would look at Greener too
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 28, 2010, 02:51:25 PM
 :hi: Thanks so much for the information and help.  I've looked and I still can't find this particular pattern.  The one piece I thought would be easy to ID is now becoming the most difficult  :P.  Thanks so much for your help!   :thup:
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: rosieposie on December 28, 2010, 04:42:28 PM
Never give up, I am still looking as well......there will be another one out there somewhere, :X:  and in the meantime comfort yourself that it must be quite rare and unusual, otherwise we would all have found it by now!! :hiclp:
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: Anne on December 28, 2010, 05:07:44 PM
Have you checked all over it for any sign of a maker's mark of registered design number? Sometimes they are hard to spot, so running your fingers over the glass will pick them up when your eyes don't spot them. Baskets are often marked either on the base or on the handle, or sometimes in both places!
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: rosieposie on December 28, 2010, 05:37:09 PM
I think I might have found it!!

Look at this link and see what you think.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350423635958&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

 :X: for you! xx
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 28, 2010, 06:24:05 PM
 :hiclp: I believe that is the same design!  I can't see the bottom but everything else is the same.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!   :kissy:  I appreciate it this more than you will ever know. 
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 28, 2010, 06:37:02 PM
I have just picked up one of these in uranium glass today. The handle is similar to one on another uranium basket in a different design. I think still think Greener is a much more likely candidate, certainly for the original mould, though Davidson did buy many moulds from other manufacturers. The colour of the purple slag doesn't look like Davidson and nor does the colour of the uranium look right for Davidson. And it certainly isn't the Davidson hobnail pattern.

Read the ebay listing carefully; it rather implies the attribution is tentative.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: Anne on December 28, 2010, 07:17:20 PM
I was just about to say the same as Christine has.... though shown as Davidson in the listing, there is no proof in the listing that it is so. Searching through Davidson Glass book (Stewart & Stewart) I can't find a match, nor is it shown in Jenny Thompson's Identification of English Pressed Glass, so I'd still want evidence before attributing this to any glassworks.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 28, 2010, 08:12:21 PM
I agree, and was thinking the same.  It is helpful to know the pattern is in amber as well.  I'll see if I can get the seller to tell me how he knows the ID accurate.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: rosieposie on December 28, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
Hi again,  I have enlarged the image and the base pattern looks the same as yours.  I am still searching,  but I think it would be an idea to ask the seller how they know it is Davidson.  The listing has ended now,  but they may help you if you ask very nicely.
Do keep us informed of progress on that,  and I will keep looking.... :)
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 28, 2010, 09:41:36 PM
Thank you Rosie.  I did send an email to the seller and I am hoping he/she will respond.  As soon as I hear anything I will let you know.  Thanks again  :wsh:
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: tbeck3579 on December 29, 2010, 03:24:58 AM
The seller did respond back and stated that she hadn't found one exactly like it, so...  Back to searching :)
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 31, 2010, 03:48:52 PM
It is Greener. Barrie Skelcher IDs it in Vaseline Glassware: Fascinating Fluorescent Beauty, p201. His has an unreadable registration lozenge, but he was able to read it on another one. Deposition number 238105, 14 January 1870. Look at where the handle joins the base. One side is plain; the other has the lozenge.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket ID
Post by: rosieposie on December 31, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Wow Christine,  that's wonderful....... :rah:

Do you think you might let the seller of the 'Davidson' one know this tbeck3579?
(Do you have a name by the way, it seems so formal calling you tbeck3579.....?)

Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: tbeck3579 on January 08, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
Oh my gosh, I can't believe you found this.  I'm sorry I didn't see the email earlier.  This is fantastic!!!  How did you do that? I can't thank you enough.  I sure wish there was someway I could return the favor!!!  You have no idea how much this means to me.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: tbeck3579 on January 08, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
Yes, I will let the seller know.  This is fantastic news.  My name is Teresa and the basket was my mother-in-laws.  I've been going through her rather extensive glass collection and this is one of the pieces I had decided I am definitely keeping -- regardless if I ever found an ID.  Now to know the ID and know that it is something she would have very much liked to share is wonderful.  Thank you everyone for helping.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: rosieposie on January 08, 2011, 06:36:19 PM
Hi Teresa,  I am so pleased for you.....I know just how you are feeling!!  :rah:
This group have helped identify so many pieces of glass for me, and the joy when you know what it is is indescribable.

I had seen this link,  but because it was written in Chinese and the basket a different colour,  I am afraid I dismissed it, and I suspect it might well be a translated version of Christine's reference.......I really MUST invest in some books....this year!

Here's the link,  but I think it might be the same basket.
http://www17.ocn.ne.jp/~andot/image/photo394.jpg

Happy glass hunting.......and dusting!!  (Oooops sorry everyone,  that word is forbidden on this board!! :pb:
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 08, 2011, 08:34:14 PM
Yes it is http://www17.ocn.ne.jp/~andot/page3-4.html , scroll down

He's a Japanese collector and like me goes for anything containing uranium. Uranium glass is quite big in Japan.
http://www17.ocn.ne.jp/~andot/
If you start on the first link on the left hand side, you can scroll down each page (there is generally an English word to help with ID) and see his collection. The next button is at the very bottom on the right. There's some lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: rosieposie on January 09, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
Very lovely stuff Christine, and so I had better learn Chinese as well!!

I have some very pretty uranium plates I will be posting shortly.....I suspect you will imediately know who made them,  but I haven't a clue!!

Cheers, rosieposie. :)
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 09, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
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so I had better learn Chinese as well!!
That won't help you; it's in Japanese
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He's a Japanese collector
Title: Re: Purple Slag/Marble/Malachite Basket - ID = Greener
Post by: rosieposie on January 09, 2011, 07:00:29 PM
 :pb: