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Title: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on December 20, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
The only Whitefriars streaky paperweight I have ever owned had coloured ribbons . The ribbons in these possible Whitefriars streakies are made with (possibly) flattened star canes . Firstly, are they Whitefriars (please!) and were canes used for the ribbons normally ? Diameter 8 cm , height 7 cm for both. There are three internal large bubbles in each weight . Thanks for looking !  :sg:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on December 20, 2010, 05:10:06 PM
Here is the other one ! :sn:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: johnphilip on December 20, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
Yes 100 % W/Fs made by Ray Annenberg you can often see the star at the end of the pulled cane . jp
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on December 20, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
Thanks very much John...really good news !! I thought they might be (that's why I bought them !) but the one that I had didn't show any indicaction that the ribbons were, infact, made from paperweight canes !  Do you know if this is the case with all ribbons in streakies ?  Ta, Mike.
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: johnphilip on December 21, 2010, 08:03:49 AM
No they dont all show the cane end , the three bubbles are sometimes elongated  . :fc:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Leni on December 21, 2010, 02:46:52 PM
Nice finds!  :D  The ones with cane ends visible are 'sought-after'  ;) :thup:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on December 21, 2010, 06:06:18 PM
Thanks John & Leni !

I bought them in the Gloucester Antiques Centre which is well worth a visit if you ever find yourself in Gloucester. They were tucked away on the second floor. I picked up one and convinced myself that they 'surely must be' and then noticed the other one and got a bit.... :rah:....you know that feeling....as you do in these situations. I paid £16 each, but the seller (who wasn't there) didn't know they were W/fs (at lest they weren't marked as such).  I only half knew they might be !

It was the cane ends which I was unsure about...but I convinced myself they must be W/F star canes . Sometimes you just have to go with a little bit of gut-instinct ..... Talking of guts,  I can't help thinking tape worms here  :24:.
Only kidding...I really understand the appeal of these weights , they are superb & very heavy.  :love:
   
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: daveweight on December 21, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
These stretched cane weight were made in three designs, the first, like your, has three bubbles in a triangular pattern above the caes. The second type is strretched canes covered in small bubbles and the third type has elongated bubbles going from the middle downwards.  Worth buyinf the guide to Whitefriars weights whihc Brain Slingsby has produced as it illustrates virtually all the Whitefriars paperweights.
Dave
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: johnphilip on December 21, 2010, 08:38:42 PM
Brian will be pleased with his new name  :24: :24: :24: Had a few drinks Dave ?
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: daveweight on December 22, 2010, 12:08:14 PM
Hic - Yes I confess. Never type things in a hurry - lesson learned !!

Have a good Christmas one and all

Dave
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: WhatHo! on January 05, 2011, 06:13:06 PM
What Ho! I have been collecting these paperweights for years and have about 35 of them.
They are catalogued as 4 different styles.

The first 2 styles started production about 1977. These are much more common and found in the 1978 & 1980 catalogues.

9850 - 3 Bubble
9851 - Controlled Bubble

The second 2 styles are less common and only found in the 1980 catalogue. In my experience the egg shaped is the rarest.

9893 - Egg Shaped
9894 - Stretched Bubble

Cheers Wolfie
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 08, 2011, 07:08:11 AM
Thanks very much Wolfie,...a very useful guide indeed and some lovely photos !

Do you know if they were all made by Ray Annenburg or was it a design originated by him ?

Dave thanks for the info. on Brians book...another one for my list !

Cheers, Mike.
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: WhatHo! on January 10, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
What Ho Mike! I know Ray Annenberg quite well and have spoken to him about these weights on a couple of occasions. They were all designed and made by Ray, who was of course the Gaffer at Whitefriars.
He also made slightly smaller ones after leaving Whitefriars, these are uncommon and Im lucky to have 2 of them. See below,
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 11, 2011, 06:26:28 PM
Really delightful pair of weights ! It is good to know, first-hand , that these are only by Ray. No need to sign them !

After Whitefriars closed, where did Ray go ? If you don't mind me asking....would love to know !

Ta, Mike.
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 11, 2011, 07:49:23 PM
Saw this on whitefriars.com just the other day
http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/658877.0/
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 11, 2011, 08:28:33 PM
Well I'm blowed ! I'm off to find a copy of the film Scapegoat starring Alex Guiness and Ray Annenberg ! So he went to a small glass firm in Cambridge ! I wonder what kind of glass they were producing ?   :thup:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 12, 2011, 07:40:14 AM
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4180.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18878.0.html

Have a look through those links
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: johnphilip on January 12, 2011, 08:02:08 AM
Yes u r lucky Wolfie aint i good to you . ;)  :fc: Well folks you can get the whole story on Ray at the next Cambridge Glass Fair  .
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: WhatHo! on January 14, 2011, 12:34:49 PM
Indeed Hobbsy! I was lucky enough to purchase the pair a few years ago when they weren't popular!!!
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: johnphilip on January 14, 2011, 05:35:21 PM
Hi W-H That second one with the dark center core is an absolute stonker .
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: daveweight on January 15, 2011, 01:26:47 PM
Hi Mike,
After leaving Whitefriars Ray worked as a hospital porter but has now retired.
Dave
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Leni on January 15, 2011, 02:27:29 PM
Ray came out of retirement recently to do some occasional work at Adam Aaronson's studio.  He has made paperweights and vases, including some weights using Whitefriars canes, saved from the factory when it closed down.  Here are a couple of mine.   
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes
Post by: Lily of the Valley on January 15, 2011, 06:02:52 PM
Oh my, Leni ..... How lovely!!!  :D  Your photos are a bright treat for a foggy morning in my corner of the world.  :kissy:

Lily  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 15, 2011, 06:04:27 PM
How teriffic ! A real joy to behold , I hope Ray wants to stay semi-retired for years to come !

I remember seeing some Whitefriars canes for sale on ebay, they were neatly arranged in a plastic Petridish stuck into bluetac and they looked like a close-packed  paperweight . I asked the seller the question 'these canes look like they are stuck in Bluetac , do they usually come like this ?'   ......I just got a terse reply !    :-[  :ooh:
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: johnphilip on January 15, 2011, 08:04:04 PM
Hi Ray set a few up in blue tack for  friends i was lucky enough to be given one by Ray  i am proud to say , i believe the others were charged but not a lot , THANKS Ray .  ;D
Title: Re: 2 possible Whitefriars streaky paperweights made with flattened star canes ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on January 16, 2011, 07:51:21 PM
Thanks John,

That explains it then ! ....I thought it was a half-finished paperweight !

I hope your canes will end up, one day, as a beautiful paperweight with Ray's help   :X: ;)