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Title: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on January 05, 2011, 10:07:36 PM
Hi,

I'm hoping someone could tell me more (glassworks, etc.) about this little vase.  It's only 142mm high and 26mm wide at the very top.  Deep engravings of mistletoe go all the way around the piece, and 'lumpiness', particularly behind the engravings, can be felt on the inside.  The base is flat, with a lot of wear. 

Thank you for looking.  :)

P.S.  If you are looking, don't pay too much attention to the dirt on the inside of the vase -- it's a difficult piece to get clean.  :spls:
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on January 06, 2011, 07:37:06 AM
Here are some much better pictures (and a much cleaner vase  :-[)...
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Mike M on January 06, 2011, 09:26:24 AM
Hi

Pretty sure this is Harrach c1900

is the mistletoe engraved or moulded? -either way it could be Harrach they did both.

cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on January 06, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
Mike, thank you for taking the time to respond.  :)

Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgable enough to tell you whether the mistletoe has been engraved or moulded -- to my eye, it looks engraved, but there are protrusions on the inside of the vase, especially beneath the 'petals'.

It would be wonderful if my little vase turned out to be Harrach.  With your helpful point in (hopefully) the right direction, perhaps I'll find confirmation...

Thank you, again!
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on February 03, 2011, 05:13:49 PM
Having seen this very similar vase attributed to Moser (see here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Seltene-Jugendstil-Vase-Moser-Karlsbad-1905-Art-Nouveau-/230575590115?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item35af604ae3) I decided to write to customer services and ask about my piece.  This was the response:

"..Each Moser glass piece is always signed on the bottom with a Moser brand mark. Your glass items seem to be made in the glassworks in Železný Brod in North Bohemia as the style of manufacturing correspond to their production."

 :huh:


I'll stick with 'Harrach'. (Mike, thank you again.)
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: dirk. on February 03, 2011, 05:33:51 PM
Several of this seller´s attributions were not correct in the past, some of the current aren´t either.
He´s a lucky guy - his pieces seem to fetch results beyond usual ebay market value...  :sm:
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Ivo on February 03, 2011, 06:31:11 PM
These are often misattributed to Moser or to VSL - but they're actually from a Czech refinery - the name escapes me & unable to find the relevant book right now.
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on February 04, 2011, 05:17:00 AM
Thank you, gentlemen  :).

I must admit, the seller was very convincing with his attribution -- he even provided a source and page number.  Seeing the price he got for the piece, others were also obviously convinced.

Talking about 'sources', in Judith Miller's "DK Collector's Guides, 20th Century Glass" a vase much like mine, but with a different moulded leaf pattern, appears on page 172.  It's described as a Bohemian clear glass vase of tubular form, moulded and engraved with a partially obscured female torso. 1905


I think there must be an error -- I wouldn't describe the vase as 'tubular', and I see leaves, not a naked woman.  :spls:


Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 04, 2011, 07:41:32 AM
Oops looks like somebody got in a muddle.
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on February 04, 2011, 05:16:58 PM
I have to admit, since the description read "partially obscured female torso", I started examining the picture to see where she was hiding... needless to say, I couldn't find her.   ;D
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on August 23, 2011, 10:12:26 AM
Now I know this little vase is Czech, but I don't know the maker.  A polite bump. :)
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: dirk. on August 23, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on August 23, 2011, 01:35:21 PM
Dirk (and Pamela), THANK YOU!!! :kissy: And I originally thought that little card said 'various vases'. Lol.  Thank you for enlarging it for me.


It's fantastic to have the name of the designer -- Alfred Scholler -- though I haven't been able to find any information on him yet.  I've looked up 'Dolni Maxov' and know it's in the district of Jablonec nad Nisou, but I haven't found any information about the glassworks.  (There is a glassworks in Dolni Maxov which is currently for sale: http://www.finapra.cz/2011/01/28/prodej-objektu-sklarske-hute-maxov-udrzovana-zasoby/ but that information doesn't help very much.  :-\)

I've received such wonderful answers... now I've got so many more questions. :hi:
  
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: krsilber on August 29, 2011, 02:47:15 AM
I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that yours was designed by the same person, or manufactured by the same company, as those in Dirk's photo.  This style was so popular that I'd bet a few companies made similar things.  It looks to me like yours was molded then frosted (etched), with a few details added by engraving.  I'd be very surprised to see Harrach make something of this quality (not particularly high, in my opinion - sorry!).
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on August 29, 2011, 04:49:04 AM
I wasn't 'jumping' Kristi, I was strolling...   ;)

To be honest, looking at Dirk's photograph and at my piece, I don't see a marked difference, save the flower. Perhaps a silly question, but when talking about glassworks, is 'Harrach' and 'Dolni Maxov' one and the same?

Thank you for your comments -- always appreciated! :hi:
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: krsilber on August 29, 2011, 06:12:36 PM
Oh, sorry, I wasn't meaning to say that Harrach had anything to do with the ones Dirk showed, just referring to their earlier appearance in the thread. 

For all I know, yours could be designed by Scholler, too...I just meant there was no conclusive evidence of it.  It's kind of hard to see the details in the Scholler examples to do much meaningful comparison, though they do sort of have a molded look judging by the way light is refracted.

I dunno, I'm not adding anything in the way of ID info here - wish I could!
Title: Re: Small clear vase with engraved mistletoe -- maker?
Post by: Anik R on September 06, 2011, 07:55:14 AM
While searching for something else, I stumbled across a very similar vase in "Pressglas-korrespondenz" attributed to Glaswerk Juliusz Stolle Niemen, um 1910.  See the first page of the article:  http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2007-2w-kwasnik-stolle-niemen.pdf (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2007-2w-kwasnik-stolle-niemen.pdf)

I've written to Ms Kwaśnik-Gliwińska.  Perhaps she will be able to provide more insight.   :-\