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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: chriscooper on January 12, 2011, 12:01:31 AM
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Pale yellow, 6" long, good quality glass with several cut/polished lens, flat polished base, am I right in thinking Czech?
http://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/3#5559794190571868194
Chris :sun:
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Thought this would have been an easy one, just in case it slipped under the radar any thoughts before it makes it's way into the art glass category, honestly thought Czech myself.
Thanks Chris
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Have you got any more pictures. It might be helpful to see it from above.
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Czech (or perhaps German) would be my guess as well. The shape isn't familiar to me, though (that's not saying much :) ). The citrine colour was used by ZBS, but there are more candidates. Moser used it as well (but they usually signed their work), and I'm reminded of the case where I had a cut lens type of vase (though it turned out to be pressed instead of cut) in neodymium pink that was pronounced ZBS at first, until I found it in the Glassrevue as Jablonecke Sklarny (from 1968).
Astrid
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Ignore my above post I just noticed the other pictures. I don't recognise it.
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Have no idea, but pretty.
Only a guess (due to lens) ??? Novy Bor ???????????????????? :huh: :huh:
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Or Hessenglas perhaps? There´s an oval dish in purple cased clear on this site - measurements 15.6 x 8.8cm (scroll down):
http://www.kristallglas-oberursel.net/Text/ProdukteHessenglas_Vasen.html
On the way down the page there are some black and white pictures of some of their cut items as well. :huh:
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Thanks for the suggestion so far
Chris :sun:
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I am more than surprised to find designs in the Hessenglas gallery, that I would have attributed to Pavel Hlava for Exbor without much doubt...
(Some other items look a lot like Josef Hospodka)
So did Hessenglas copy Czech designs?
Michael
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Thanks for raising that question, Michael! I´ve been asking that myself,too.
Many workers came from the bohemian region after WWII. I wonder if they still
got connections to that region and brought some designs with them???
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Dirk is true,
many German spoken Bohemian glassworkes had to leave their homes after WWII and had extabilished their busines in their new homes. Many Bohemian looked glass coudl have the West-German origin then.
But it is not his case. The eviction of Bohemian Germans was in 1945/46. Hospodka has inevted this style of glass in late 50ties and Hlava's piecesare from beg 60ties. I would rather investigate the possibility that Glassexport had sold this pieces at Western market in co-operation with Hessenglas.
Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cy
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Thanks, Jindrich and Dirk!
I would also believe that Hessenglas (who had a fabulous designer -- Gangkofner) would not simply make accurate copys of Pavel Hlava designs -- and these vases do not look just "inspired by Hlava"...
One of the vases has a label which I cannot read, but it isn't the HG label, so I guess Jindrich is right (as usual :) )
Michael
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Chris, did you see the one in the Moser 1857-1997 book (don't know if you have access to it)? Not the same as yours, but it has some similarities that might suggest a Czech connection. Page 219, number 237, a prototype design by J. Forejtova from 1957. That one is 25 cm, so also bigger.
Astrid
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Good direction, Astrid.
The Forejtová ashtray is a bit different and has no cut lenses, but the quallity of glass can focus to Moser
ask them directly at:
www.moser.com
E-mail: customerservice@moser-glass.com
Just to make youir life easier - the Moser page 219 is here
http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/MoserPage219?authkey=Gv1sRgCNDWs5qtxY77Ew#
Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz
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The website for Moser Glass is;
http://www.moser-glass.com/en/
Jindrich - hope you don't mind me putting it here - the link above takes you to some american legal firm.
I love this bowl - I know nothing about any of the discussion, although I know Deborah Fladgate has used a very similar form with cold-worked features (and other features too) in a lot of her pieces.
Imitation being the most sincere form of flattery again!
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Jindrich, I didn´t mean they took these designs with them directly, but on later
occasions. Your theory of a trade connection sounds more plausible though... :)
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Found this on Jindrichs site, CGR 1958/1: http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue19581?authkey=Gv1sRgCPyurcv_28X10AE#5438528654686458402 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue19581?authkey=Gv1sRgCPyurcv_28X10AE#5438528654686458402).
Not the same, but quite similar...
Michael