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Title: Large Art Nouveau enamel flowers--Meisenthal or Legras?
Post by: albglass on January 23, 2011, 02:31:23 AM

This small decanter is 7" tall and has two large enamelled pink flowers, two daisies, and some green buds in the Art Nouveau style.  The base enamel is very thick and has been painted over, similar to some Mt. Joye pieces I have run across.  The base is marked "E.Cusenier Fils Aine & Cie" which is the name of a spirits retailer in France who typically bought very ordinary glass for their alcoholic beverages but occasionally commissioned nicer pieces from time to time.  One of their pieces was commissioned from Lalique.  That's basically all I could find out about the company.  The problem is that this decanter has conflicting attributions, and I get the feeling that folks are just guessing as to who might have made it.  This auction sold the identical vase and attributed it to Burgun, Schverer & Co (Meisenthal):
www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1266157
However, this site attributed it to Legras: http://www.glaskilian.de
Unfortunately I couldn't get the pasted web address to work--you have to get on this site, hit "Suche" and type in "Legras Karaffe"  to bring it up.
I was wondering if the Meisenthal attribution could even be possible--has anyone seen similar pieces by Burgun Schverer?  Or maybe a bottle collector might have more information on Cusenier and what companies they bought from?  I know it's a long shot, but you never know. :X:  Thanks!

Title: Re: Large Art Nouveau enamel flowers--Meisenthal or Legras?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 23, 2011, 05:54:36 PM

You mean this one (http://www.glaskilian.de/LEGRAS-Karaffe-E-CUSENIER-FIL.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZzd29yZHM9bGVncmFzJTIwJnByb2R1Y3RJRD0xODIzMyZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD01NiZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)

The enamelling is good; the blank less so

Title: Re: Large Art Nouveau enamel flowers--Meisenthal or Legras?
Post by: albglass on January 23, 2011, 08:41:21 PM

Oh, yes, yes!  Your link brings it up directly!  While the pattern is almost identical between the three bottles, the shapes of the flowers do have very slight differences (number of petals in the daisies, curves of the flowers) and the enamelling has slight differences as well (speckling, shading, and lines within the flowers are different), so these were hand painted.