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Title: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 05, 2011, 08:42:32 PM

This large vase (11.5 in) has optic ribbing, raspberry prunts and an applied foot with rigaree. I suspect it's English and late 19 century. What does anyone else think please?

The top rim is beautifully ground and bevelled and the foot rim is also ground, though less well. The colour is the sort of amber that veers towards green.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Ivo on February 05, 2011, 08:56:01 PM

I think it may be Gordiola from the fourties or fifties and that the top ruffled flange has been removed - it makes no sense to make such a froufrou design and then simply cut the top.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 06, 2011, 10:49:53 AM

I'm going to disagree that it's been cut down. The top rim is exactly the same distance from the top prunts as bottom ones are from the top of the foot. The rim is also extremely well finished. It's also not the sort of items I would expect anyone to pay to have "repaired".

Two rows of prunts (albeit in different sizes) and one row of rigaree hardly constitute frou frou. It's also not uncommon to find fancy bodies and bases with plain rims. The moulded prunts and simple looped rigaree are also features of English Victorian glass.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Ivo on February 06, 2011, 01:43:00 PM

Bernardo Gordiola Manera (1889-1960)

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 06, 2011, 03:16:05 PM

Maybe. My prunts look much better formed and the colour looks different. Do you have a larger picture you can email me please?

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 06, 2011, 05:38:41 PM

The prunts are totally different - Christine's prunts have carefully arranged concentric rings of 2 different sized lumps, while Ivo's seem to have random-ish, similar sized lumps.
There seems to be a big difference in quality between the two pieces.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 07, 2011, 07:24:30 AM

Thanks Ivo. On close inspection, those prunts are quite different to mine, as is the rigaree. The Giordiola has a simple wave, mine is sort of folded back on itself.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Ivo on February 07, 2011, 08:05:06 AM

Glad you are so convinced.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Cathy B on February 07, 2011, 08:26:10 AM

Ivo, would it be possible to show a close up of your prunts? I can't see them well enough to make the comparison.

Title: Re: Victorian vase with raspberry prunts and optic ribs
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 07, 2011, 09:20:18 AM

I'm agreeing to differ  :kissy: There are too many differences