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Title: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: I love all Glass on February 11, 2011, 12:58:54 AM
Hello everyone, I am a new member please be kind. I have this very nice Sommerso ashtray, the gold is lovely. It measures 15cm across and 6cm tall and a heavy .823kg in weight. Any clue to a maker?  It is a real stunner to look at, all ideas gratefully received.    Thanks     Simon
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 11, 2011, 02:15:41 AM
Hi and Welcome  :rah:

Lovely ashtray -- I am leaning (guessing) towards Czech Glass ?? -- but sometimes I lean too far over, and fall right off the Map.....

So I am sure others like be able to give you a better, positive ID.

Again Welcome, you will Enjoy it here!!  :hi:
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: johnphilip on February 11, 2011, 05:11:16 AM
Hi welcome , i hope its from a smoke free home ...! :ha: :hi:
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: langhaugh on February 11, 2011, 06:58:40 AM
A nicely made ashtray. I don't think it's Czech, at least not Skrdlovice, Chribska or Harrachov, as the rim is wrong. The rim also rules out Afors, from Sweden, which made a similar type of ashtray. I don't think it's sommerso, strictly speaking. There are many glassworks who have made something like this. However, the flat rim combined with the hot-worked  lumpy bottom make it quite distinctive so I think you'll be able to id it at some point.

Welcome to the board and, don't worry, you'll soon learn to appreciate johnphillip.

David


Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: astrid on February 11, 2011, 07:14:53 AM
It's nice... style points towards 50s to 70s. Can't pin it to a country, I'm afraid. If not Czech, it could be German, but with the flowing lines it might also hail from for instance Belgium. I hope others can help you further along.

Astrid
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Anik R on February 11, 2011, 07:26:28 AM
Hello Simon,

The ashtray is not Czech (in my humble opinion)...  it's also not hotworked.  I've got the same item, and the lines and shape are perfectly symmetrical -- my impression is that it's pressed.

Maybe someone will recognise it.  Here is my ashtray...
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 11, 2011, 07:37:53 AM
Moulded certainly, perhaps not pressed, as that's not so easy with two colours. And definitely not sommerso; just two colours.
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: langhaugh on February 11, 2011, 07:39:35 AM
Anik:

Fascinating. You've got me peering and and pondering. The different angles create very different impressions.  Moulded or pressed would explain the rim. Is the base of your one flat?

David
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Anik R on February 11, 2011, 07:50:48 AM
Ah, thank you, Christine...  moulded.  :)

David, the base flows with the body, so not exactly flat.

Not to dampen Simon's enthusiasm for the piece, I wasn't as impressed with it... there is something about how the yellow and clear come together which I find strange, though please don't ask me to explain.   :-\
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Anne E.B. on February 11, 2011, 10:05:49 AM
May be Val St Lambert?
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: ahremck on February 11, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
I would expect Val St Lambert to be marked.  My thought was it could be Japanese.  If it is free of bubbles I would think it likely to be Japanese - and they always seemed to have paper stickers.

Ross
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Anik R on February 11, 2011, 07:15:30 PM
I thought this was interesting...  an ebay seller has got a very similar bowl which he/she attributes to 'Sklo Union' : http://cgi.ebay.pl/Sklo-Union-Dreieck-Schale-Modern-Design-Bohemia-60ies-/370240320970?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item56340af5ca

I really think not.  :spls:

Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Cathy B on February 11, 2011, 10:44:48 PM
I think not also. Definitely not Sklo Union, because Sklo Union is always pressed.
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Mosquito on February 11, 2011, 11:00:06 PM
I had a very similar bowl to this a while ago, a slightly different design and the contrasting colour was blue rather than amber, but I think it could have been from the same source. The bowl was definitely pressed and the colour seemed to have been fired on. I always suspected it was Walther Driburg.
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: I love all Glass on February 11, 2011, 11:55:34 PM
Hello, and thanks to all for ideas, keep them coming, lots of things I didnt think of, very useful indeed.

Again thanks for your info and you time.  Cheers    Simon
Title: Re: Help with ID on ashtray
Post by: Anik R on February 12, 2011, 04:30:11 AM
The bowl was definitely pressed and the colour seemed to have been fired on. I always suspected it was Walther Driburg.

That would explain my initial impression of the yellow being somehow 'painted' into the glass. :-X  Steven, I think you're right with the Walther Driburg attribution...