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Title: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on February 19, 2011, 09:33:33 PM

This ashtray is nothing special beside the fact it is made of Neodymium glass.

If it is contemporary - where is Neodymium used nowadays?

Thanks!
Michael

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: dirk. on February 20, 2011, 02:13:14 PM

Hi Michael
I wonder if it´s a coincidence, that your ashtray has the shape of the Pukeberg label... Never
seen any Neodymium from them, but perhaps a place to start?

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on February 20, 2011, 03:07:30 PM

Thank you very much, Dirk!
Very interesting point regarding the Pukeberg label...
I did a quick google search for Pukeberg, but found nothing in Neodymium glass (nor a matching shape).

So you are not so sure it is contemporary?
I don't know if it is clear in my pics, but the surface of the ashtray is not smooth but slightly structured.

Michael

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: dirk. on February 20, 2011, 03:12:59 PM

No idea really, sorry. If it wasn´t Neodymium, Wiesenthalhütte wouldn´t have surprised me either.
The general appearance, including the structured surface, isn´t unusual for the 70´s though...  :huh:

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on February 20, 2011, 03:47:21 PM

Thanks once again, Dirk!
The typical Wiesenthalhütte small twig-vases really look very close regarding shape and surface treatment. Just the Neodymium would make that improbable, I guess...

Well, I will continue research (and meanwhile use it as an ashtray :))

Greetings
Michael

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: dirk. on February 20, 2011, 03:53:54 PM

 :sm:

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 20, 2011, 05:03:34 PM

ZBS possibly http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,29784.0.html

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on February 20, 2011, 07:12:37 PM

Thanks, Christine!
So maybe Czech again? (Not that this would make me unhappy :))

Michael

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: Ivo on April 24, 2011, 09:26:25 PM

i think this is WMF as I have one in red with the original box.

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on April 25, 2011, 08:13:35 AM

Great information, Ivo, thanks a lot!!
This is the first WMF neodymium item then I have come across...

But if it was Wiesenthalhütte, I guess Astrid would have been able to ID it (or at least the use of this colour by Wiesenthalhütte)

Michael

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: Ivo on April 25, 2011, 08:34:19 AM

seems i am more organised than i thought.

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on April 25, 2011, 08:41:30 AM

Wow, thanks a lot for your effort, Ivo!!
Looks like a match to me.

Seems to be a lady's ashtray ;D (regarding the design of the box with lipstick and mirror)

Michael

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: dirk. on April 25, 2011, 02:02:55 PM

 :hiclp: About one of the last glassworks I would have thought of...  ::)

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: Oliver on May 31, 2011, 11:35:49 PM

Hello everybody,

I know, I´m a little late, but I just came across this nice topic. So, the ashtray was sold by WMF; but the question remains: Who produced it? Haven´t also seen an alexandrit-item from WMF so far and I don´t think they were able to produce neodymium themself. Wouldn´t also be very efficient to produce this expensive colour in this small amount only for these (pressed) items.

WMF was one great customer of Hesse-Glasworks (HG) at Oberursel for quite a while; HG produced many smokey grey and champagne-coloured products for WMF (and "Rosenthal" by the way too). Ivo´s red ashtray reminds me very much of the HG-neurot and HG was producing the alexandrit-glass up to the 80s too. This might be the solution for the WMF-Neodymium-Mystery. I´m still in touch with a former HG-glassmaker of the Hessenglas "pressing-section", maybe he recognizes it.

Oliver

www.kristallglas-oberursel.net

Title: Re: Neodymium ashtray -- contemporary?
Post by: rocco on June 05, 2011, 02:44:53 PM

Thank you so much for your contribution, Oliver!
Very interesting (and quite probable); I think there was a thread recently where Dirk or Ivo mentioned that WMF produced only a minority of the glass items sold under their brand themselves...

Michael