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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Trebor on March 02, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
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Hi please can you tell me that this is my first pieces of uranium glass so i can justify buying a black light thank you :X: :X: :ooh:
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A blacklight would be a good investment in any case... ;)
I´m pretty sure they will glow. The shape and pattern is quite distinctive - surely
someone will be able to give you an ID. Datewise I´d rather say 1930´s.
They are lovely! :mrgreen:
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Ummmm you need a blacklight to be able to tell if it's uranium, Robert! :) The small keyfob size ones aren't expensive - less than a fiver usually.
Or you might find one like mine, which is one of those kids' spy pens with a blacklight in the cap to show up the secret writing... cost me all of a £1 in the pound shop. I think WH Smith's do a slighter posher version too. :thup:
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Thank`s Dirk and Anne i will first thing tomorrow :hi:
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Hi , Well i got a black light today and am i glad it`s one thing looking at a picture of uranium glass but quite unreal the way the light transforms the glass it`s a sort of efflorescence it just comes alive (it`s my first time) .What i cannot under stand is they would not of seen the glass glow or would they . when i say them i mean in the 1900?
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It's more like 1930s than 1910, but no they wouldn't have seen the glow in the same way. Originally uranium was used because it gives a lovely rich bright yellow that looks much better in a bit of daylight than in shadow. When it's used with other colorants to give shades of yellowy green and green it gives real depth to the colour. You can see what I mean if you compare two identical pieces of glass: one with uranium and one without. The UV in daylight is enough to perk up the colour. Though I have to admit in some pieces it's hard to see why they used uranium at all.
Compare these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bagley-Green-Uranium-Glass-Bowl-six-Dishes-/110654266776
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BAGLEY-GREEN-GLASS-FRUIT-BOWL-CARNIVAL-PATTERN-/370488462909
I'm fairly confident that the single bowl is uranium free.
Those candlesticks are very desirable. :mrgreen: especially in their fittings.
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Hi Christine yes it`s quite deceptive if you don't know what your looking for. And yes i was lucky to get them the fittings have some rusting where the chrome had come away so they were not sure if they should sell them or throe them out so i knowing exactly what they were glass! so made them a offer i think £10 was a bit steep :smg: :rah: :girlcheer: :hiclp: :ha: :hat:
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Robert — they're Bagley, but they're not in the Pontefract Museum online collection, nor in my set of PG photocopies, nor are they in my 2004 edition of Bowey & Parsons.
The style comes in two forms. Singles like yours, and triples on a horizontally orientated diamond support with candleholder rings at each of the upper three corners. I've had these through my hands on five or six occasions, and they are very fast sellers as Christine indicated above. I've had them in two patterns, just the one pair like yours for which I don't know the pattern name or number, and also in the Art Deco 1333 Wyndham pattern, more easily found in my experience. The best I ever had was a complete frosted pink 1333 Wyndham garniture set — a triple garnished by two singles, which sold immediately despite a very high price.
The question remains as to whether the metalwork was Bagley or not. Bagley is known to have produced and supplied special glass for the metalbashers — for example the bayonet version of Andromeda was supplied to Leek's of Birmingham for their novelty lamp, and epergne flutes were supplied to Zimmerman for mounting on their leaf supports. Bagley also had metalwork made for their own products like table lamps. So both scenarios are possibilities, but I think it much more likely that Bagley had the metalwork for these candlesticks made for them, and sold the candlesticks complete. Note that a toast set shown on p.49 of my Bowey & Parsons utilises the same flattened chrome rod, as do some handles for cake plates, as does an epergne very similar to the triple candlestick but with a weighted chrome base here (http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/index.asp?page=item&filename=bagley.mdf&itemId=WAKGMP%20:%20P2005.305). We won't know for certain unless further information emerges.
One further possibility is that these candlesticks were produced as an exclusive for just one large client, which would help explain both their nonappearance in Bagley archives and their scarcity.
Nice find — I wish I'd got to them first. ;D
Bernard C. 8)
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What evidence do you have that they're Bagley please Bernard? They don't appear in Angela's latest update either and they are completely the wrong shade of uranium green. That yellowish green is much more Jobling or Walther or Sowerby than any Bagley uranium glass that I've seen. That is a bluish green.
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I think they would go very nicely with my square green rose trimmed plates mentioned in this thread......
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=38886.new;topicseen#new
Have a look and see what you think.
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Hi i have just been looking at your rose`s and the leafs are remarkably seemlier?
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They are, aren't they....I wonder????
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Hi Robert
These candlesticks were made by Walther part of their Rosen range.Also the moulded flowers are exactly the same as Walther Haarlem centrepiece which decorate the base of this centrepiece.
Best wishes Nige