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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: astrid on March 05, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
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Every month I change the display on my front window-sill. The theme for this month is 'Oh no! That's not Murano'. Every one of these vases/bowls was sold in the past year under the Murano description - absolutely none of them are Murano in any way (shame on you if you sold me one of these for not identifying it properly :) )
Some were posted on this forum, one even very recently. The piece on the far left in the second picture is of course not glass, it's a carved springstone statue from Zimbabwe :)
So, the quiz: can you identify these 10 pieces without peeking (at my Picasa website for instance, where all of them are identified correctly)?
I'll credit my husband for coming up with the name of this quiz. A few months ago, hearing me exclaim "Aaargh. How can they sell this as Murano??", he made the following motto song for me (based on 'Godzilla' by the Blue Oyster Cult).
"Oh no! They say it's got to go
Go go Glassilla!
Oh no! That's not Murano!
Go go Glassilla!"
:girlcheer:
He sings it now and again when he finds me muttering behind an ebay screen at my computer...
Astrid
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mmh undecided about the middle of the c´s, otherwise I´m quite sure I know them all....
I see you´ve grouped them by ______ (5+5) ;D
Hope I don´t spoil the fun with this little hint?
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"Glassilla - we need more cowbell!"
Bruce Dickinson ;D
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Actually the one you refer to is the only one where the attribution on this forum was not watertightly proven according to some. I accepted the solution offered, however.
And I would have been quite surprised if you hadn't been able to name most or all of these, Dirk :)
Astrid
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may I have a bit of a stab - not actually naming them all, I could never pretend to ever reach Dirk's standard - but suggesting that the second row are all Czechoslovakian blown and moulded - and I know that the central green vase in the top row is WMF, so are the others from the same stable?? I really like the phallic looking pink thingy on the right, and know I have seen it recently, but can't remember where. Great pieces Astrid, no matter from where they come ;)
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I did cheat Astrid * :pb: but only bcause I don't collect vases......at least I don't intentionally collect them! What a wonderful collection!!
I really like your idea of changing the collection on view, do you mind if I pinch that idea? I do change them from time to time, but not with any particular theme in mind....brilliant!
*I won't tell what I found out by the way.
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By all means Rosie, go ahead. I think themed displaying is great if you tend to buy a lot, have a large collection and not enough space to display it properly all the time.
Let's see, for inspiration, I've had the following themes lately:
October: Autumn (Brown, orange and a bit of red and yellow coloured vases)
November: Czech pressed glass display
December: Winter colours (Clear, black and white glass)
January: Bubbles! (all vases with air bubbles as part of the design)
February: Big is Beautiful (6 very big and bold vases)
Maybe we can have a thread for different themed displays to inspire others
Astrid
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... suggesting that the second row are all Czechoslovakian blown and moulded
Yes, the five on the left of the bottom picture are Czech, but the red one on the right isn't.
- and I know that the central green vase in the top row is WMF, so are the others from the same stable?? I really like the phallic looking pink thingy on the right, and know I have seen it recently, but can't remember where.
You've seen it in Glass, because I just got confirmed in this forum it is what I hoped it was. The thread is still fresh :)
I'll give a hint: all the vases in the top picture are from the same country, but not all from the same factory (two of them are).
Astrid
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I know what is what, but only because I take a look at your wonderful albums very regularly... :)
(I do wish more people would make their albums available for viewing. Sigh.)
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Thank you Astrid :kissy: ....what lovely themes you come up with....I love the idea.....did you photograph them?
Maybe we can have a thread for different themed displays to inspire others
Astrid
Yes, that is a good idea...we have Easter coming up, then Summer holidays and halloween, and Christmas, and next years Valentines ...and. and, and, and....so much.... :rah:
Hello Anik, see you have just popped in.... :hi:
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did you photograph them?
Ehhh... I started that with the november display and did december, and then forgot to take pictures of january and february. Wait, I'll make a different thread right now and show the ones I have made. At least it can inspire people to add a picture of their current display, themed or not. Having separate pictures of glass pieces in an online album is one thing, but there is also fun to be had in finding a way of combining them and showing the combination.
Here is the new thread: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,39041.0.html
Astrid
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must admit that I don't view other people's private albums - not out of indifference you understand, just that I never really seem to remember to look :) - and have been a bit quiet this week re glass so haven't been on the board much. I must be improving somewhat, but recognized the Czech pieces from Mark Hill's book, and knew I had seen the WMF piece in one of the Miller's books (I'm assuming that the green one is WMF - only wasn't quite sure I fully understood your reply Astrid - pulled my back the other day, and it has left my brain a little under-powered ;D) The others, however, I must be candid and say that I don't really recognize - although as I have said they are all 'lookers' and great pieces to have on show (not that my trouble and strife would agree ;D)
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What I meant Paul, but perhaps I was a little cryptic, is that the purple one that seemed so familiar to you was posted yesterday in a thread named ' Unknown big purple vase, ID? German perhaps?', so I assume you've seen it there.
Astrid
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The second row is Czechoslovakian. I suppose that the red one on the right hand side is Skrdlovice piece. I cannot zoom it properly at my tablet device. Can you pleace give us more pictures of the pink-red one. The rest I am able to attribute, I hope.
Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz
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The red one on the far right is not a Czech piece, Jindrich. I didn't intend to split the country of origin over the photographs exactly. A beautiful piece of glass, though, and often misattributed. It's also found in slightly different heights and shapes and ashtrays. Apart from red I've also seen pieces with deep purple and turquoise blue instead of red.
I'll give a closer look for those wanting to admire it (and renamed the pic as not to spoil it):
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"so I assume you've seen it there" - nope - don't think I did, but cud be a cse of deja vu. I've gone thru my books for the red one, but have to throw the towel in.....although think it is Scandi :)
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"so I assume you've seen it there" - nope - don't think I did, but cud be a cse of deja vu. I've gone thru my books for the red one, but have to throw the towel in.....although think it is Scandi :)
No, not Scandi either.
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Well, your description that you have seen it in more colours made my suspiction, that this piece is Czech and Skrdlovice much deeper.
I had not this piece in hand but I suppose that the pece is blown to wooden mould and the side decoration is cut later. Also the top rim, that would be normaly opened at flame is cut. The cut decoration possibly is very unique and must not be made directly in glasswork. For me it looks like Stahlikova Skrdlovice piece from 50ties, chipped on sides so originaly "improved" and fixed by side cut.
The colour of core corresponds with the colour used in Skrdlovice exactly, the shape of vase and red core is also same, only side cuts and rim are different. I would wait for ideas of Skrdlovice 50ties expert Robert - bOBA.
At German ebay you can see very often Czech glass missatributed for Murano. Mosttly Chribska pieces are attribited as Murano very widely. I keep to inform sellers about their mistakes and I keep to give them links to catalogues, some of them change mind and description, some of them are stiff and display Murano attribution possibly for commercial purposes. It makes me mad, becouse I do not assume that Czech origin is worse than Murano >:(
Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz
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Lovely glass there Astrid. The cut red one would not tempt me to buy it under the impression it was Skrdlovice. I am pretty sure I have seen some people attribute it as Bayel, Germany. I have, like you, seen a few of these and the frequency I have them in, again makes me reluctant to say Skrdlovice.... the cutting looks a bit more modern to me too. A nice piece though and one that could take a while to attribute maybe....
Robert (bOBA)
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Astrid and me are very sure what it is.... ;)
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Astrid and me are very sure what it is.... ;)
Dirk is right, we have no doubts whatsoever, this is not a 'maybe' or a 'likely'. It's not Czech, it's not Skrdlovice. Bayel is a French company and not the maker of this piece, though it's starting to sound closer :).
Astrid
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is it Val St Lambert?
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No, not Val St. Lambert, and not Belgium either.
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ups was in the wrong Massge Board
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OK, time to post the answers for those who couldn't find the time to look them up:
Top picture left to right, all German vases:
1. Leichlingen, probably 50s-60s (we had a thread about it recently)
2. Walther "Eleganz"
3. WMF, designed by Erich Jachmann (60s)
4. WMF, designed by Erich Jachmann (60s) (we also had a thread about that very recently)
Bottom picture left to right, 5 Czech and 1 German:
1. Chribska, Josef Hospodka most likely
2. Mstisov, Frantisek Zemek "Harmony" 50s
3. Chribska (we had a thread about that one)
4. Mstisov, Hana Machovska "Romana" 60s
5. Mstisov, most likely Frantisek Zemek (we had a thread about that one. After some research I concluded that the Pallme König factory mentioned in Glasrevue with this piece was most likely the Mstisov factory, so I'd rather use that name as it was a 50s piece)
6. Beyer & Co, 60s. Located in Bayern, Germany. bOBA got it almost right, and Bayel may sound like Beyer, but it's definitely a different factory :)
Sadly, while Dirk and I knew the factories for all the German pieces, I for one can't name all the designers apart from Jachmann, so if anyone can add info, or correct inaccuracies, they're welcome to do so!
Astrid