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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: chriscooper on March 06, 2011, 02:48:10 PM
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https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/306#5580964950770081794
https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/115#5580977379809094450
https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/115#5580977379809094450
Finally got it right :-[
https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/211#5580859971621143842
Chris :sun:
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The last one is a nice clear one Chris....but does that mean none of the others are flame pontil marks??
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So I have been informed :-[
Chris :sun:
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The first one made me think of this: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2651
Easy enough to rule Dartington in or out, email them and ask - they have been very helpful in the past.
John
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And it doesn't really look very IoWSG.
Jury's still out on the middle one Chris, John and I have discussed the shape, which I still maintain is right although unusual, but correct for the period it might be from, if it is IoWSG, if you follow my drivelling........
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Hi Chris Kerry glass has the flame t,other way round . :hi:
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Uredale Glass might be an option. Their mark is supposed to be a glassblower.
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Not all Kerry Glass has the flame the other way round!
They started off with one the same way round, but something happened to it and a new one was made, the other way around.
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Sue maybe maybe but I am more maybe not.....
Hi Chris Kerry glass has the flame t,other way round . :hi:
Only sometimes and probably the minority rather than majority, it seems as if they lost their stamp and made another one getting it reversed: both examples here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31319.0.html
John
We crossed Sue but great minds think..... :pb:
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We'll stop there, John. :thup:
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I have one with a flame pontil mark and a label that has a flame pontil mark on it.
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;D
One what, Nemmie?
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It's a vase.
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Oh, Blue and White Swirls. I'm impressed - (John will be too). That's a scarce early piece.
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I am. ;D
Very interesting to see it with a flame mark, blue and white is usually found with the 'coachbolt' mark. Are there any areas with white enamel rather than clear glass Nemmie? The white patches can get stretched and tenuous (it may be that white was not added). Can't say I have seen a cylinder vase in blue before either, very nice.
John
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Chris, given where you are and looking at these two:
https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/306#5580964950770081794 and this one
https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/115#5566530797865984850 have you considered Uredale Glass for them?
http://www.uredale.co.uk/website/Products.htm - they use the little stick man with blow pipe stamp on their bases (shown on the link above.)
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I am. ;D
Very interesting to see it with a flame mark, blue and white is usually found with the 'coachbolt' mark. Are there any areas with white enamel rather than clear glass Nemmie? The white patches can get stretched and tenuous (it may be that white was not added). Can't say I have seen a cylinder vase in blue before either, very nice.
John
Just blue swirls and bubbles and clear glass although parts of the blue are lighter than others there is no actual clear white. So it looks like they missed it out.
I didn't realise that they used a flame pontil label as well as the actual flame pontil mark itself. I suppose most of them are washed off.
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What lovely glass from Uredale Anne, and I think I can see the little 'bubble' on the end of the blow pipe, Chris, in your pontil mark. Is it worth asking them if it is one of theirs? They are lovely clear pictures to send them.
I love all the little quotes on the website.....very reflective.
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I've only read two of the quotes - they sent me scurrying :wsh: - grammatically correct English, but just meaningless, irritating, new-age twaddle!
Sorry, Rosie :hug:
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Let me hijack this thread - I assume everyone with some insight in sig prunts will get drawn here.
The prunt is a hand holding a flaming bowl.
it is found on the underside of a lidded pineapple.
:huh:
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The lid seems to sit very deeply inside the base.... could it possibly just be a vase with a bowl on top - which just happens to look as if it's something proper when they're put together?
This prunty stuff is getting complicated.
It would be a very good idea to try to gather together as many as can be found into a proper reference source.
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Sorry Ivo, that one is new to me.
Sue, agreed, gobbledygook.......
Nemmie, they used their logo - the flame mark on at least three labels at different times (not including Kerry examples): http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=536&page=2
John
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Sorry for :hj:, but about the quotes - Perhaps they make more sense in the context of the original novels or poetry? Ben Okri is a novelist, and Hugh McDiarmid, Khalil Ghibran etc were poets.
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Hugh McDairmid and Kahil Gibran do make sense quite often, I'm familiar with their work Cathy- it's the anthropocentric, anthropomorphic, meaningless, word-strings that drive me nuts.
(And the fact that folk are mislead into thinking it's somehow "deep" or "soulful" - it's not, it's just (at best) ambiguous or amtriguous......or amhexagous!)
Anyhoo - here's a new prunt mark.
Allister Malcom has one now - although he also signs his work clearly.
Here's his prunt - and the piece it's on.
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ambiguous or amtriguous......or amhexagous!)
I'd love to hear that in a Scottish accent Sue!! :wsh:
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ok, Rosie, your wish is my command, it would be "amtrrrrrriguous". I roll my rs.
(where's the "mooning" emoticon???? :usd: :usd:)
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Thank you Sue :sc: .......and your very lovely plate is:
'Passing lichen strewn rocks, reflecting pale Winter sunrise on our path to peace and tranquility'. :sun:
I wonder if this is the same artist?
http://www.tooveys.com/lots.asp?WEBLOTID=171506&LOTID=1603
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Good grief, Rosie, no, no, no! :thud:
My fabby, fabby, glistening golden and green fish scaley plate is by contemporary artist and all round lovely guy, Allister Malcolm, from his new Mermaid range. :rah:
http://www.allistermalcolm.com/mermaidP.htm
(I've got a blue scent bottle in this range too - currently residing with Christine, though)
He is currently working in residence at Broadfield House, and is often found at the big Fairs - Cambridge and the National - I found him at Cambridge when contemporary artists first started featuring there. I saw a Platinum vase and had to have it. I think it must have been one of his quite early ones. I've been collecting his work since then - he even made wine goblets and a claret jug especially for me.
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Well I hope you liked 'my interpretation' of your lovely plate....
We met Allister at the Cambridge Glass Fair last Sunday week, he is a lovely man, with a wicked sense of humour.
We both sat and watched him make one of his lovely Contour vases. John was enthralled by it all, and stayed on to watch other pieces being made, it kept him out of my hair so I could wander around the glass fair without him saying 'Have you finished yet' and now he says he wants to build a furnace!!
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I'm so glad you met him - and you obviously had a chance to see his work!
He's so full of new ideas, never disappoints - I think he's just wonderful - I really look forward to seeing him - and what he's just been up to, glass-wise!
(and he doesn't make me go too teenybopperish/goldfishy, well, not any more. He's just so down-to earth and enthusiastic.)
I did/do like your description - but not for the plate, which is fishy. It takes me back to when I was well enough to go hillwalking with Michael. I miss it. :cry: