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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: jonchellycain on March 10, 2011, 01:39:29 PM
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ahhhh really... I bought a decanter last week, got really excited didnt check it properly. When i got home jon took one look at it and said "that stoppers wrong" It got a gound down part but still doesnt fit, plus the patterns are different
https://picasaweb.google.com/112538457954992188877/Mdina#5582105771968137762
will get a picture of the stopper, as would love your opinion on it.
michelle
added 3 pictures of stopper
https://picasaweb.google.com/112538457954992188877/Mdina#5582446888762773442
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Is the inside neck of the flask ground for a stopper to fit? If not it probably never had one. Hang onto the stopper, at some stage you may well find something it matches like this: https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/LaterMdinaGlass#5430029803229637426
My mum has a nice stopper in the ming colourway, it used to have a matching bottle but that exploded when it was dropped, the stopper survived intact.....
John
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Yes the neck has been ground, quite a bit too. maybe somebody trying to make this one fit?
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The flask is in a Michael Harris design, currently called "Crystal blue stripe" - a pattern which has been a mainstay of Mdina production almost from the very start and continued today.
I think, however, that this is a fairly recent shape. Earlier flasks had a more rounded than triangular bottom part. Don't quote me on that, I'm not positive and with Mdina you don't always know - shapes can be a bit haphazard! However, stoppers with this pattern in them are a fairly recent feature.
Is the inside neck of the flask ground to take a stopper?
The stopper you have is in a different pattern completely and probably belongs to another piece - in that same pattern. Given the very deep "jewell-like" blue of the stopper, it's a later-ish (well post Harris) one - but not neccessarily the same period as the flask.
However, if you find a stopperless something in that pattern, you might be able to put it in that to complete it.
John - I've got spare stopperless bottles in Ming, if you'd like one!
Am I making any sense? I think I'm confusing myself!
Most older stoppered pieces from Mdina are "marriages" - given how they were sold. It's quite ok.
Cross-posting confusio :pb: - it's perfectly possible the flask did have a stopper - but I'm also positive it would be in the stripe pattern. The two different patterns don't really work, do they?
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Many thanks and yes it made sense, i will keep them together in my collection and one day i may find a good partner for each :thup:
michelle