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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on March 13, 2011, 04:32:30 PM
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I am so excited! I am trying very hard to spend very little at the moment, but I still can't resist going to the car boot to have a look round. I bought two things today (I'll post the other separately)
So this is number 1 - I know this is broken and badly glued :cry:, but I still thought that I could learn something from it as it is completely different from anything I own and I just loved it. So I brought it home to reseach and :rah: I found this (scroll down to third item I think it is)-
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/shops/shop5-1.htm
So is this what I have but in jug form? The interior is completely smooth, the exterior has horizontal very fine ribs on it . The base is exquisite with a tiny immaculate round polished pontil mark.
And is there anyway of getting this glue off and reglueing it does anyone think? I would like it not to have yellow stripes on it if possible. If not it doesn't matter :)
thanks in advance for your comments
m
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I will be amazed if its not clichy . I have a couple of perfume bottles same technique . Love it .
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:kissy: thank you JP :girlcheer:
Ok I know it's damaged...but still that's a very exciting find for me.
m
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not meaning to bump this, but now Paul has suggested doing something similar can I ask again?
I would like to get this glued triangular piece off and reglued. Is it appropriate to do so with something so old or should I leave it be? also, is it best to send it to a glass restorer to have it done. I'm worried that once the yellow glue comes off (and that's a big if, I could ever manage to do it myself) reglueing it would pose a problem.
Either way, is it appropriate to do so to this piece?
thanks for any thoughts on this.
m
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It is like restoring a painting. If you think it is worth the effort and cost then why not?
John
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Having just read the other thread, I'm afraid I suspect this might be epoxy resin here.
I have a great deal of experience with the appearance of epoxy resin. It oozed out of tons of furniture and other stuff in my childhood home. My Dad liked playing with it.
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Sue, I thought I probably agreed with you, so I've just had a little dabble at scratching some of the worst excess of with my thumbnail (nothing to lose really)......and it just flicked off :rah:, so possibly it's that horrid old Bostick that dried amber yellow? ooh that's hopeful. Glad you said that and made me have another look at it :)
m
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Bostick tended to stay clear. (wonderful smell that stuff, and great for playing with and squidging in your fingers). I know Bostick well too. Dad liked glue. Lots of glue!
It is sounding hopeful if it does just "flick off". Would a soak in warmish soapy water help loosen it, I wonder.....
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Another job for Basil, IMHO ;)
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the thing is though, if it falls apart I'm worried I might lose some tiny bits of glass maybe. I need clear head space and no children around ( and preferably for it to be a sewing/embroidery repair rather than glass :24:) - I'll think on it - Leni we cross posted ;D
m
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:hi: Get the proper glass glue go for the expensive one daylight draws it in and it set clear its well worth it , if the glue wont come off use a little paint stripper on a brush . Just dont rush it . :X:
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You won't loose bits if you put it in a plastic basin.
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I never had conclusive evidence this was Clichy.
I've just received the book for Christmas and there is nothing like this in the book - there is no definitive shape match or decor match I could see. I also couldn't see a single piece that had a trailed red rim although they did do solid colour trailed rims.
I'm questioning the attribution.
m
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So sorry to hear that this has given you a disappointing Christmas m - never mind, we all get let down some time or another ;D
Seriously tho.......... regret not my sort of glass and unable to offer any useful info., but............ pump handles and these large trefoil shaped rims were common ish c. 1850 in a variety of places, and j.p's comments were usually light years better than mine, especially in the area of this 'Venetian' sort of decorative glass, which presumably was were the French, and everyone else, borrowed the look from.
Baccarat did this shape I'm sure, although don't know if they did mezza filigrana - or maybe St. Louis - and there's even a chance it could be Bohemian or Richardson's in England - you'll probably never know for sure.
quote ...." Dad liked glue - lots of glue" .. makes me think of the humorous lines......... "I love cooking with wine - sometime I even put it in the food".. ;)
Presumably you've not yet dismantled this piece - do the usual and start at the least intrusive end of the spectrum of anti-glue chemicals and work up to paint stripper or solvent of some kind. The glues that give real problems are the Araldite types, and they too go brown after time - although here again think I've heard that paint stripper can help.
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I think not UK or Bohemian.
I would incline to French and Cristallerie Saint-Louis if not Clichy.
There are not many of these around but there are some. I would have thought if it were Clichy there would have been a piece in the book on show.
Interesting ... and means I need to do some more research which is the fun part :)
m
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Cross reference link to another thread. On that thread there is one shown in the Black County Museum in the same decor technique that was a Benjamin Richardson bequest and is identified as Clichy.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,45587.msg282576.html#msg282576
I think it is remarkably odd that whilst there are plenty of filigrana examples in the book there are none in the shape of my jug, in the shape of the Benjamin Richardson vase and none in that decor or technique.
m
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There is one example of this technique in Baguiers et Verre a Boire du XIXeme siecle
on page 183 plate141 in a beige yellow type colour filigrana with white - it is identified as Saint-Louis.
m