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Title: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 18, 2011, 01:38:44 PM
Hello, I saw this coiled snake paperweight on ebay, and have seen similar marked FM Ronneby Sweden. It appears unmarked, with only a faded label. Can anyone id maker?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=180637671765&si=cbYNn9s7nCJ%252BdNgI8iFeSr94c60%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 18, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
I have a clear glass weight exactly the same shape - it has a label on it which says "Swedish Glass". It's not a coiled snake - it's a pile of cr*p.  :thup:
I think the label on the ebay one says "Sticklers Jewellers Trinidad" - or something very similar - I don't think it's a maker's label - neither is mine. I have wondered if mine might be Ronneby, although the glass is not the best of colours and there are manufacturer's flaws in it - tool marks and bad bubbles.
Mine lives on the bathroom floor beside the loo.
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 18, 2011, 04:28:27 PM
Hello, I prefer the snake to the feces description! :24:

Here's a link to a Marcolin paperweight which is similar: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170582644782&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 18, 2011, 06:00:14 PM
It does look similar - I can't tell, though, if the quality of the marked one is superior to mine or not. Mine is not good quality.
I posted it here some years ago, and Ivo agreed it was a pile of cr*p. I found it in a charity shop and it wasn't expensive.
It really isn't very snake-like at all. Sorry. :24:
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 18, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
I just can't believe someone would go to the trouble of designing and blowing these pieces, with feces as the design motif.
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: rosieposie on March 18, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
I even think the Marcolin one looks like Doggy~doos......we had a friend with a doggie that always left brown coiled 'Meringues' on the lawn!!  :ooh:
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 18, 2011, 06:59:53 PM
I thought it was done in rather a neat fashion, that's for sure ::)
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: KevinH on March 18, 2011, 11:02:23 PM
For future reference, when the eBay item inked to in Reply #2 is no longer available for viewing, the description included, "... product number says 17385 ...".

Maybe at some stage we will get information on that product number and whether it is a "snake" or not.
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 08:58:17 AM
Not all cultures are as squeamish about body functions as others.

Marcel Duchamp, exhibited a urinal on it's side and was (rightly) acclaimed for doing so. Dali was well known for having a fascination with such things, the Breugels frequently had images of defaceting folk in their paintings - and so did many of the 16th century Dutch masters - particularly the images of folk on the frozen rivers in wintertime.
I believe in Mexican nativity scenes, a defecating child is a standard figure along with the crib.

It's not a weird subject if you take cross-cultural contexts into account.

Disgust is a normal human reaction - but the things which make us feel disgust are learned from our culture.
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: rosieposie on March 19, 2011, 10:41:22 AM
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Disgust is a normal human reaction - but the things which make us feel disgust are learned from our culture.

Quite so, Sue....hence my plea to put the toilet lid down!!!
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 10:53:04 AM
In a survey done on a load of microbically swabbed households, the loo was clean enough to eat from - and the most disgustingly dirty, dangerous and infected thing was the 'fridge door handle.
It's only really Legionairre's disease you need to worry about in fine water mists, and current troubles with allergies and infections is not enough exposure to bugs to build up immunity!
I've never had any illnesses from leaving the loo lid open when flushing, or given anybody food poisoning.

(I wasn't too sure about the loo in the campsite in Andorra, back in the '60s. It consisted of two plates for your feet, and a hole in the floor - and when you flushed it, your feet got "washed" if you were too slow to leap away. :wsh:  )
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 19, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
Hello, I have to say my first reaction was to laugh at the thought. It never even occurred to me that it could be feces, human or otherwise. I had quite a discussion with my co-workers last night about this discussion, and the turn it had taken. It was really amusing watching one of the nurses demonstrate how one could defecate in a perfect circle and pinch off the top so neatly! At any rate, isn't art all about
what it means to the viewer? At any rate, it sure has given me a different perspective on the piece.....
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
It was the neatly coiled pile of doggy-doo on top of a 3.5ft tall concrete bollard in Eire that had me a bit puzzled - somebody must have dangled the poor dog over it!

What did your nurse use to demonstrate? And can she teach Michael to at least keep it in a confined location?
(IBS ::) )
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 19, 2011, 02:05:10 PM
She just stood there and kind of rotated her hips in a circle, and then just lifted her leg ever so slightly to demonstrate the pinch...I found it highly amusing...nurses really are the most twisted people on the planet, but that's not for the public to know...
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 02:10:42 PM
The microbiological study I referred to earlier found that nurses did have clean 'fridge door handles.
(I do too.  :angel: Used to work in a microbiology lab a long time ago.)
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 19, 2011, 03:29:53 PM
Yes, nurses are twisted, but not stupid. They know well what lurks on that fridge handle! :srn:
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 03:52:30 PM
I think that nurses do such difficult work that if they weren't twisted, they couldn't cope. :smg:
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: inca on March 19, 2011, 04:14:41 PM
It does look similar - I can't tell, though, if the quality of the marked one is superior to mine or not. Mine is not good quality. I posted it here some years ago, and Ivo agreed it was a pile of cr*p. I found it in a charity shop and it wasn't expensive. It really isn't very snake-like at all. Sorry. :24:



The number is M-385. It's a seashell.

The quality of the marked one (on eBay) look superior to the one you have. The shape is also different so I don't think your seashell is Marcolin. Other glassworks have also made these type of seashells.


Here are two Marcolin/Ronneby seashells from my collection.


Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: rosieposie on March 19, 2011, 04:17:25 PM
I'm a nurse!!  :srn: I'm not twisted and I can't do a 'meringue' poo, but I do close the toilet seat......and I clean the fridge door handle!!

Oh, thank goodness, Inca has just popped by to get us all back on the staright and narrow!
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 04:34:35 PM
My thing is not a snake, and it is not a shell. It's a heap of cr*p. Ivo confirmed this years ago.
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: Sach on March 19, 2011, 04:46:41 PM
Only nurses can discuss the different forms of diarrhea while wolfing down bean dip and guacamole.

Ted - (former LPN)
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 19, 2011, 04:54:41 PM
I couldn't eat guacamole,  :-X
but lab technicians can happily discuss surgery and colon contents at the same time as eating dinner.
Title: Re: Coiled Snake Paperweight...Marcolin?
Post by: msiscoe on March 19, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
Hello everyone, I think I like the sea shell idea the best. Those two are beautiful, by the way. If these are supposed to be doo doo, why aren't they brown? And yes, nurses can clean doo doo with one hand, and eat a cheeseburger with the other.... :hiclp: