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Title: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: ardy on March 21, 2011, 01:30:08 AM
This would be it. Love it and have no idea who made it but it is already at $226.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300536471070&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: carolglass on March 21, 2011, 02:52:56 AM
WOW I agree Ardy, what a stunning item- I would love to own it (note to self-win the lottery first)
 regards Carol
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: pl79 on March 21, 2011, 08:21:07 PM
She is beautiful and so unusual.
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 22, 2011, 12:47:13 PM
And so damaged!
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: ardy on March 22, 2011, 07:10:38 PM
I didn't realise this but there again I was never going to bid on her. You have to look at the print and the pictures closely. Even then you can get it wrong, guess that is why ebay is cheaper.
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: tam bam on March 22, 2011, 07:22:04 PM
Beautiful figurine but I too noticed the damage.  I wonder if some kid snatched her hands off or something playing with it. 

tam bam
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: ardy on March 22, 2011, 07:59:32 PM
Tam Bam - my greatest fear is moving.

I plan to do this in a couple of years and think I will have to have it wrapped by the removalist's as they do a better job than me and then I will transport it.
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: tam bam on March 23, 2011, 01:09:58 PM
I know what you mean, Ardy.  I moved about 3 years ago and I worried about my collection.  Luckily I was only moving a couple of blocks away so it wasn't that big of a deal.  I also told the movers not to move the boxes marked glass because I wanted to move my glass myself.  All my glass made it safe and sound but thank goodness I didn't allow the movers to move my glass because they broke half my china because they threw my boxes on the floor.  I was not a happy camper but at least my glass collection is still intact. 

tam bam
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 23, 2011, 03:48:55 PM
For anything important at all, do it yourself.

I once hired a seperate removal firm, specialists in piano removal, to shift my piano rather than trust the normal removal folk with it.
I warned them it was an extremely heavy piano, told them it's one which had been specially made from a cast iron Bluthner frame inside a heavy Welmar casing. They should have known from those makes that it weighs a lot more than most pianos.

They sent a couple of scrawny teenagers who couldn't shift it at all.  :thud: :thud:
They had to phone in asking for a couple of far more musclebound Mr. Universes to come and help. Even they struggled with it.
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on August 19, 2011, 01:13:17 PM
HI Ardy

These figurines are known as HARLEQUIN and they mimic 17th century venetain folk and the clothes they wore.  
Hope this helps

DEAN

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Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: langhaugh on August 20, 2011, 06:21:59 AM
Ardy:

Gorgeous piece. I'd live with the damage, I think.

Dean:

What's your source for Harlequin figures in the 17th Century?  Can you refer us to pictures of Harlequin figures from the 17th Century?  What is your definition of a Harlequin figure ?  How is this a Harlequin figure?  (And it would be helpful if you didn't refer to your site or your eBay company.)

David

Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on August 20, 2011, 12:26:02 PM
Hi

The reference to HARLEQUIN figurines does not mean they were made in the 17th century, it is just a generic term that was given to figurines created wearing 17th century Venetian clothing.  Sorry for the confusions and ambiguity but I hope this helps

Ciao

Dean
Title: Re: If I was ever going to buy a Murano figure
Post by: langhaugh on August 20, 2011, 03:27:49 PM
Dean:

I understand that it does not mean that they were made in the 17th Century. My concern is that you are using the term harlequin generically when the term has a very specific meaning. It seems to me that your are using the term harlequin to describe all Murano glass figurines dressed in old fashioned clothes. I'm asking you to  refer us to sources that support your usage.

I'll admit immediately I know very little about 17th Century Venetian Glass.  However, I do know that the harlequin (arlechinno in Italian) figure is a stock character in the Italian theatrical form Commedia dell'Arte. I also know that there are conventions about how the harlequin is portrayed and dressed. Usually, he is black-faced and wears a colourful costume of made up if diamond shaped patches of different coloured material. In other words, the conventional portrayal of the harlequin looks nothing like the figure that Ardy referred to at the beginning of this thread.

I do know that Commdia dell'Arte glass figures have been made in the 20th Century, most famously by Bianconi. However, you would never mistake Bianconi's figures for glass figures made before the 20th Century. Neither Barovier and Toso's nor Seguso's figures seem to bear any relationship to Commedia dell'Arte.

I've commented before that people of this board seem concerned (and in my case preoccupied) with using terms correctly. When I see a term that I'm not sure about I do a little research. When you used the word "Harlequin," I did some looking around. On the Internet, every reference to harlequin glass figures from Murano led back to you.  So I asked you the questions in my previous post in this thread. I assure you it's nothing personal, but I do feel that a person who sells such magnificent Murano glass does has an obligation to use terms correctly.

David