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Title: Large moulded vase - Italian?
Post by: adam20 on April 02, 2011, 01:04:19 PM

Large 16" high moulded vase

Told it was Czech - feels like it - changes colour in different light from purple to pale blue (neodym)

Any ideas - see pics - including base

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: Jindra8526 on April 02, 2011, 04:38:50 PM

Not known to me
Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: art-of-glass on April 02, 2011, 07:52:27 PM

I think it could be Italian, maybe?

Dan

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: adam20 on April 02, 2011, 08:16:02 PM

You know my feeling was Italian - but I have never had a neodym Italian vase - did they use the technique?

I suppose some factories did - but which ones to try and narrow it down

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: flying free on April 02, 2011, 09:04:10 PM

I may have this wrong, but I'm sure I have seen that pattern and style sold in cased glass and I'm sure I thought it was id'd Empoli or Opalina Fiorentina.  However when I saw  a cased one I didn't buy it as I wasn't particulary sure the thickness of the glass or the casing was right (the cased one that is).  And just to add to this, I have a huge neodymium vase that is in the snowflake pattern that is also seen in cased glass and id'd as Empoli or rather Opalina Fiorentina I believe.  I ended up thinking my neodymium vase may have been by Stelvia possibly I believe?  So I think your vase is Italian and an Empoli maker possibly or Stelvia perhaps.
And to add a further note, I recently did buy a snowflake vase in cased glass like my neodymium one and the thickness of the glass on that isn't particularly as thick as I thought it would be either.
So, my thoughts are they are all Italian although I was a little surprised that the thickness of the cased glass wasn't as good as I had thought it may be.   If that makes sense?
m

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: flying free on April 02, 2011, 09:19:13 PM

Link here to cased Empoli vases and in this thread there is a further link to another thread with a labelled cased vase.  The reference being that I have a neodymium ribbed snowflake vase the same as the snowflake one in one of these links.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8845.msg74753.html#msg74753

here is my neodymium one
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31200.msg169134.html#msg169134

ok so it isn't definite proof yet, until I find the cased one like yours, but I feel pretty certain I have seen it id'd as Italian somewhere.  I'll keep looking.

Aha - is this the cased jug version of your vase?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31437.msg170232.html#msg170232
m

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: adam20 on April 02, 2011, 10:02:29 PM

Thanks m

That is the jug version of my vase in cased glass - makes sense that it is not cased as most pieces of neodymium are not (well all mine anyway) quite thin walled as well

Seems it noww got an ID - Italian Opalina Fiorentina in neodymium glass 1960s 70s - great job

Moderators can you move to Italain glass or glass

Thanks Adam

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: flying free on April 03, 2011, 09:10:07 AM

Adam, the only comment I would add is that there was some discussion over whether the non cased versions would be labelled as Opalina Fiorentina.  Opalina being colour cased over white. Wayne found a further label on items that weren't cased and I'm not sure they had the Opalina Fiorentina on the label.  I don't think that has quite been resolved fully yet.  But I would still say your vase is Italian if that helps  ;D
m

Title: Re: Large moulded vase - Czech?
Post by: adam20 on April 03, 2011, 06:30:17 PM

Nearly resolved then

I'll keep an eye out for any further info or posts on this manufacturer ref uncased versions

Thanks Adam