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Title: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 11, 2011, 03:17:33 PM: Hi,

Hoping someone can confirm if this is a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian. Measures approximately 8 inches tall and is around 9 inches wide across the middle. Has loads of wear to the base and a ground pontil mark, slightly concave. The colour is somewhere between a blue and purple.

Any info greatly appreciated....

Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: glassobsessed on April 11, 2011, 04:53:35 PM: Have you had a look through the catalogues on Whitefriars.com? If it is not there then very unlikely. The colour does not look right for the Wf soda range.

Here are many of the shapes: http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/1964/index.php?pageNum_catalogue=3&totalRows_catalogue=206

John
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 11, 2011, 05:33:26 PM: Hi John,

Thanks, can't see anything similar in the WF catalogue. I was wondering if it might be a Holmegaard per Lutken design, I've seen a couple of other pieces in a similar colour...?

Thanks
Greg
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: johnphilip on April 11, 2011, 06:29:46 PM: Wrong shape for W/Fs .
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 11, 2011, 06:44:26 PM: thanks John.
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 23, 2011, 02:47:44 PM: polite bump...
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Ivo on April 23, 2011, 04:21:07 PM: I vote Scandinavian. Ikea to be more precise....
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chriscooper on April 23, 2011, 05:05:38 PM: Hi, pretty sure it's not Whitefriars nor Ikea either Jacob Bang did some pretty similar for Kastrup had a couple in Amethyst
More likely 60s?
Chris
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 23, 2011, 05:28:50 PM: Thanks Chris, thinking it might be Scandinavian, although one that might be harder to pin point. I'll have a look into Kastrup. I see Magnor also produced similar designs. Pretty sure it's late 50s or 60s, looking at the wear on the base it looks like it has some age.
Thanks for your thoughts.

Cheers Greg
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Ivo on April 23, 2011, 06:02:32 PM: Quote from: GBarfoot on April 23, 2011, 05:28:50 PM
looking at the wear on the base it looks like it has some age.

Looking at the same base I come to a different conclusion.
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 23, 2011, 06:28:43 PM: Hi Ivo, looking at the base close up there are hundreds of stratches which made me think it had some age? Just wondering why you thought it was pretty recent? Doesn't the wear look age related?

Thanks Greg
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Ivo on April 23, 2011, 07:03:46 PM: It has scratches but it lacks the telltale soft scratch ring - which consists not of dozens but of many thousands tiny scratches and outlines the area it actually stands on. Your vase has a contemporary finish, with a ground ring for stability. It may be 10, 15 years old and i would guess it is from the days when Ikea produced in Hungary. The shape is also very recent, imho.
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: Greg. on April 23, 2011, 07:11:13 PM: Thanks for the clarification Ivo much apreciated. :)
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 24, 2011, 08:51:52 AM: For future reference, soda glass is normally very thin and lightweight.
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chriscooper on April 24, 2011, 11:19:04 AM: The Whitefriars range were mostly but not all lightweight soda glass as they were made from old lighting moulds.
Thought soda glass was predominantly quite heavy glass? as used in everyday items like beer bottles jam jars and window glass?
Will dig out a Whitefriars light shade that is an exception to the rule and post a picture later.

Chris :sun:

https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/WhitefriarsLightShade#5599110885731472018

Sue you may be interested who made them?
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: glassobsessed on April 24, 2011, 04:41:25 PM: I thought soda glass was lighter than your 'average' glass too....

John
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chriscooper on April 25, 2011, 12:25:08 PM: https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/WhitefriarsLightShade#5599110885731472018

Sue you may be interested who made them?

Have a guess Sue ;D
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 25, 2011, 05:08:02 PM: I can't think why anybody would want a deep blue light and clear shade - unless it's for "on the stage" purposes?
Let's see, my (only) favourite wfs maker is Peter Wheeler, (I'm not interested in what the Boffos did there, it's their Mdina work I like, not wfs)

But I don't think it's PW, Chris!
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chriscooper on April 25, 2011, 06:31:21 PM: Anyone who is interested, these shades were made at Whitefriars by Boffo for Thorn lighting in various styles and colours on hanging pendants and are quite sought after for retro settings.

http://www.whitefriars.com/bb_orig/viewtopic.php?t=3786&highlight=thorn

Sorry Sue presumed you appreciated him as an artist and would have been interested in other examples of his work.
Did you not like his animals he did at Whitefriars either?

Chris
Title: Re: Confirmation - Is this a Whitefriars Soda vase or Scandinavian...?
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 26, 2011, 12:22:01 PM: I don't go for animal things at all Chris, or pws :wsh:
- I see the Boffos as mastercraftsmen rather than artists, I appreciate what they could do with the freedom of Michael Harris' designs rather than the restrictions of wfs designs - it's the use of colour I love.