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Title: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: style-invasion on April 14, 2011, 07:03:13 AM

(http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/15/91/42/18/th/p1170318.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1076&u=15914218)     (http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/15/91/42/18/th/p1170319.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1077&u=15914218)

is it or isn't it eisch?
cant find a signature....
I think if it is it should be a 1970s model
help would be wonderful as usual
best

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: flying free on April 14, 2011, 07:08:01 AM

I'm not sure all Eisch was signed - mine has a label and a sig but I've just seen a vase attributed to WMF by an auction house, that I feel pretty sure is Eisch (unless they did a direct copy of a WMF vase).  I'm assuming the auction house one wasn't signed therefore and probably only labelled and the label had fallen off.  My Eisch has a polished pontil mark, however again, I'm not sure if that is always the norm.
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Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: style-invasion on April 14, 2011, 07:22:46 AM

Hi, actually I have one eisch myra like signed with an etched stamp (http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/15/91/42/18/th/p1170325.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1083&u=15914218)

and another with an handwritten engraved signature but not dated(http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/15/91/42/18/th/p1170233.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1061&u=15914218)

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: flying free on April 14, 2011, 09:07:24 AM

The one I saw is here (link below) - I thought this must be Eisch but unsigned given their id of WMF, but I could be very wrong then.  It's just that the decor and the handles are remarkably similar to my Eisch one. 

http://www.fieldingsauctioneers.co.uk/lotDetails.asp?lotsID=67827&menuItemOn=3&salesID=104&hasImage=1&start=0&isPage=1

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: style-invasion on April 14, 2011, 08:06:49 PM

as far as I know the Graal technique vase you've mentioned in your link is by wmf

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: flying free on April 14, 2011, 09:09:18 PM

Gosh, then my Eisch vase has a very close decor and design to that if it is WMF.  I'm surprised.  Mine is signed Eisch and has a label on the base.
pics below - what do you think?  thoughts anyone else?

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: Anne on April 15, 2011, 12:17:25 AM

Quote from: style-invasion on April 14, 2011, 07:03:13 AM

(http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/15/91/42/18/th/p1170318.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1076&u=15914218)     (http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/15/91/42/18/th/p1170319.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1077&u=15914218)

is it or isn't it eisch?
cant find a signature....
I think if it is it should be a 1970s model
help would be wonderful as usual
best

Is there some lettering on the base - look at the centre of the pontil scar and then move your gaze to about 10 o'clock (imagine the base as a clockface) - I'm sure I can see lettering there? Quite small... but something...

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: paulbowen on April 15, 2011, 01:55:08 AM

All of the pieces shown in this link thus far are Eisch.  None are WMF.  This includes the "Myra like" piece.  Not all Eisch pieces were signed, not all of them had labels.  Sometimes the pontils got polished, but more often they were left rough.  Here are a couple of Eisch pieces to check out.  The red one especially looks a lot like Ikora but isn't. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Erwin-von-Eisch-Frauenauge-cluthra-vases-Germany-/330552859468?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf67c5b4c

Title: Re: my first thought Erwin Eisch? my second as well
Post by: dirk. on April 15, 2011, 05:48:45 AM

I´m rather sure Fielding´s got that one wrong...  8)