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Title: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: ahremck on April 18, 2011, 10:54:25 AM

My reasons are twofold - the writing is very similar to a Harrachov vase I have, and in looking at harrachov sites both P & K are often used in marks.  My reservation cames from the lack of numbers.  The quality is excellent.  Came by inheritance I suspect it is at least 70 years in the family.

Ross

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 18, 2011, 10:57:04 AM

Do a board search for PK. No conclusion has ever been reached.

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: ahremck on April 18, 2011, 11:30:53 AM

Can't find any thing in GMB - BUT in Mod: Link removed as content changed to inappropriate site I found this paragraph.

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Moser or not? - Pieces in this decor have traditionally be attributed to Moser in various books and other references, however, after seeing this pair of vases with this PK mark, maybe it's time to reconsider this.  Most of the glassware bearing this mark are typically poor quality fireglow Victorian era glass, with low quality enameling (usually worn) certainly not done by Moser.

  [See photo below]
         
That looks the same - now to find a Moser site to see if there are more.

Ross

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: ahremck on April 18, 2011, 11:33:38 AM

Ooops missed the vital signature.

Ross

Mod: Link removed as content changed to inappropriate site

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 18, 2011, 12:44:06 PM

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,33247.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,36074.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3751.0.html

Definitely not Moser. If those pictures are not yours, you shouldn't be posting them; use a link instead.

Your piece is a typical colour for PK pieces. Quality seems to vary over the scale from poor through to good.

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: ahremck on April 18, 2011, 01:17:06 PM

I did post the link I just put the pictures there so you knew which I referred to.  Sorry I forgot about they must be my own.

Ross

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 18, 2011, 01:23:47 PM

Mod: Links removed as content changed to inappropriate site

Right click, copy image location  ;)

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: Paul S. on April 18, 2011, 06:37:28 PM

hello Ross  -  I hate to be a killjoy, but looking at the colour of the ground we seem to be back with this 'pale coffee', of which we had something similar recently I believe -  a very common base colour for inumerable run-of-the mill type vases.    I don't see the decoration in your vase as anything special (would not agree with the word 'excellent) -and certainly many of these vases had decorators initials/whatever on the base - an attribution for which usually proves illusive.        Have to be honest and admit that I don't say this with authority  -  but rather with experience born of seeing many generically similar pieces on my travels.    I believe that if it were Moser, you really would know.    I should stick flowers in it and enjoy the colours. :)    However, may I ask you a question please  -  when you use the name Harrachov, is this one and the same as Harrach - which is the nearest I can get in the Truitt's book ?    Sorry to seem ignorant having just slagged off your vase. :D

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: ahremck on April 19, 2011, 02:11:35 AM

Paul it seems the factory is Harrachov but they often just used Harrach in their labels.  Both originated from a major Austro-Hungarian family who owned the works from 1763 - 1943.  So I am happy with either name.  I suspect I got into the habit of calling it Harrachov, because I also have some pieces of Harrtil glass and their maker is always quoted as Harrachov.

Ross

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: Ohio on April 19, 2011, 03:55:22 AM

I'll throw a curve into this as the Great Glass Manufacturer's section has now placed PK as probably Krystallglasfabrik Freiherr von Poschinger, Germany & they show early Poschinger marks for comparison. Not saying thats conclusive, just saying that possibility is now listed. I agree with Christine about quality, they run fair to very good...just depends on what you find. Ken

Title: Re: I suspect this vase may be Harrachov - if not who made it?
Post by: Paul S. on April 19, 2011, 08:46:48 AM

thanks Ross, appreciate your information.   Maybe Ken's idea should now be pursued.  :)