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Title: PY crown [actually a Flower on Filigree Cushion]
Post by: Roger H on April 18, 2011, 09:00:53 PM

       Hi all, bought this weight a while ago, and yes it is PY Harland period, but there seems to be very few latticino crowns about (Harland period) or did most go to the USA (with a PY) into collections there. Regards Roger.

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: ahremck on April 19, 2011, 02:04:04 AM

I am envious  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:.

Ross

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: jamalpa36 on April 19, 2011, 08:40:28 AM

I must admit I usually think of this weight as a filigree cushion rather than a crown

Any other views??

Roy

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: KevinH on April 19, 2011, 12:51:35 PM

I agree with Roy. It's a flower on filigree cushion, not a crown (although the cushion does follow the same form as a Crown weight, especially those that have the Crown flattened rather than rising to the top of the dome).

In Colin Mahoney's book on Paul Ysart weights, he described this design as being a "Flower with Radial Ground".

The Harland weights with an H cane were intended for the UK market. I do not know how many of this design were made but I think that most had a PY cane and were shipped to the US. I have seen very few of the H cane versions.

I do not have an example of this design (or a Crown, for that matter) so I, too, could generate a bit of jealousy on a bad day. :)

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: Roger H on April 19, 2011, 03:16:20 PM

      Yes I rather loved it at the time of purchase but it was a £100 more than many "H" weights. As they say somewhere in this country, you don't get owt for nowt, or something like that.
       I see what you mean by filigree cushion, although looking through the perthshire book a couple of the crowns look very similar. Doesn't really matter one way or the other really I suppose, a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Actually looking at the side view I guess the raised filigree cushion is certainly more accurate. Regards Roger.

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: w84it on April 19, 2011, 03:57:21 PM

HI there.

There's a rather nice example of a Paul Ysart  crown on the 'weights-and-things'  website (or rather there was  -  it's now residing chez moi! )

See the pictures at:

http://www.weights-n-things.com/en/modern-paperweights/europe/ysart-paul/5-colour-crown-harland-1970s.html (http://www.weights-n-things.com/en/modern-paperweights/europe/ysart-paul/5-colour-crown-harland-1970s.html)


Cheers

Keith

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: Roger H on April 19, 2011, 04:54:07 PM

    Yes that is definately, a full crown weight. Are they the same colours as my weight or not . My wife says my weight is brownish orange filigree but I say to me it is greenish brown. The problem is I am a bit colour blind which means I often see colours in a different way to others. Roger H.

Title: Re: PY crown
Post by: KevinH on April 19, 2011, 10:17:27 PM

I think the colours are different.

According to my monitor and my eyes (or brain) ...

Keith's Crown is made with lengths of "coloured twists" having a central coloured core and an outer white twist (with single or multiple strands). The twists are set over a pale lemon ground.

Roger's Cushion weight has simple white twists (but with both single and multiple threads) set over a pale (transluscent?) orange ground.

Title: Re: PY crown [actually a Flower on Filigree Cushion]
Post by: Roger H on April 20, 2011, 04:41:15 PM

       Yes you are exactly right with the setup and colours. What I ment to say was orange "with" filigree. Roger.