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Title: Unusual blue Powell ? Roman beaker
Post by: JOK on April 30, 2011, 05:07:51 PM

I found this small beaker (just under 5cm tall) which appears to be a liqueur glass in the Roman beaker pattern by Powell. It is in a dark blue glass and covered with gold foil. I have never seen a drinking glass made out of just this blue glass (apart from the wine glass in the Wendy Evans book at page 92). I am almost certain it is Powell because similar examples of Roman design liqueur glasses (same shape - 4 dimples - and height) appear in the Jackson book.
I would be interested to know if anyone has seen anything similar.

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Title: Re: Unusual blue Powell Roman beaker
Post by: flying free on April 30, 2011, 05:21:29 PM

I could be way off beam here (and I probably am  ;D) but you may find this thread interesting reading -
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28320.msg153808.html#msg153808

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Title: Re: Unusual blue Powell Roman beaker
Post by: johnphilip on April 30, 2011, 05:48:46 PM

I collect Powell and Salviati and have quite a few of those in various colours , sorry but i vote Venetian probably Salviati late 19th century, what say others ?

Title: Re: Unusual blue Powell Roman beaker
Post by: JOK on May 01, 2011, 08:43:15 AM

Thanks for that info. Really interesting. I don't know anything about Venetian glass, but I have just been doing a bit of research about the gold leaf technique. Apparently the murrhine surface applied technique was patented in 1876 (by D'Humy) and by 1880 there were three companies which produced drinking glasses using that or a similar method (but not the encased method - cf.Stevens & Willliams?): D'Humy, Salviati and Powell. Salviati exhibited its murrhine wares at the 1878 Paris exhibition and as a result, its rival (who had a shop just down the road on Regent's Street, London), D'Humy, changed his company name to include Murrhina.
I also know that Salviati did copy ancient wares (like Harry Powell) including Roman glass, to cater for the growing demand in antique venetian glass around the 1870s - 1880s.
So my thoughts now are that it could be a Salviati liqueur glass from about 1880 (or D'HUmy - although apparently almost nothing is known about his work). I don't have any books on Salviati (or any non-British glass really), but would like to start collecting. Do you think 1880 is the right sort of date or were these produced later?

Title: Re: Unusual blue Powell ? Roman beaker
Post by: Anne on May 02, 2011, 12:34:21 AM

Does this help at all? http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28320.msg192766.html#msg192766

Title: Re: Unusual blue Powell ? Roman beaker
Post by: Anne E.B. on May 02, 2011, 11:25:14 AM

So pleased to find this thread ;D  Another mystery solved.

Here's mine, in green.