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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on May 17, 2011, 08:50:05 AM
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Very large bowl 30cm wide by 14.5cm deep by 8cm high. Mould blown I think or is it pressed :-\ the base is part of the bowl, it's flat but goes straight into the ribs of the bowl. Ribs are underneath, top surface is flat. Blue but with pinky/lilac insets. Very pretty, loads of wear. I think I've lost my 'eye', I can't think where to start looking for this one ::) It has a flattened wide rim all around the bowl.
Any help much appreciated. :sun:
thanks
m
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Very large bowl 30cm wide by 14.5cm deep by 8cm high. Mould blown I think or is it pressed :-\ the base is part of the bowl, it's flat but goes straight into the ribs of the bowl. Ribs are underneath, top surface is flat. Blue but with pinky/lilac insets. Very pretty, loads of wear. I think I've lost my 'eye', I can't think where to start looking for this one ::) It has a flattened wide rim all around the bowl.
Any help much appreciated. :sun:
thanks
m
Very large bowl 30cm wide by 14.5cm deep by 8cm high. Mould blown I think or is it pressed :-\ the base is part of the bowl, it's flat but goes straight into the ribs of the bowl. Ribs are underneath, top surface is flat. Blue but with pinky/lilac insets. Very pretty, loads of wear. I think I've lost my 'eye', I can't think where to start looking for this one ::) It has a flattened wide rim all around the bowl.
Any help much appreciated. :sun:
thanks
m
Sorry, no help, but i'm looking for exactly the same piece to iD.
https://picasaweb.google.com/imodito/Glass#5597587928466668898
Tom
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thanks Tom -
I've also spotted a lidded box on your site - I have a purple one that I think is remarkably similar.
https://picasaweb.google.com/imodito/Glass#5597924949475087602
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These pop up in masses here in Germany. Characteristic is the technique: a pressed bowl,
excellently fire polished with a painted on contrasting colour. You´ll find the outlines of the
brush somewhere on the pieces if you look closely.
Various colours are available: turquoise with yellow (green), clear with pink, yellow with pink,
pink with purple, blue with purple...
Some further examples with this technique - different patterns though:
example I (http://cgi.ebay.de/Glas-Schale-Murano-rosa-glasklar-Top-/270750421539?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3f09fb9223)
example II (http://cgi.ebay.de/Alte-schwere-Schale-Glas-pink-26x13-Murano-/170638638251?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item27badafcab)
example III (http://www.hood.de/auction/39061118/grosse-schale-vermutlich-murano.htm)
(They are not always listed as Murano, but they were easiest to find with this keyword) ;D
We´ve had another bowl in this thread:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,34746.0.html
Unfortunately the label could not be ID´d...
Nevertheless I´d like to offer a so-far-working-hypothesis. I´ve added a picture of a further
pattern I found lately. It bears a strong resemblance to the Walther / Siebenstern ´Eleganz´
vase:
Glaskilian (http://www.glaskilian.de/Vase-ELEGANZ-Walther-Glas-circ.576+B6YmFja1BJRD01NzYmcHJvZHVjdElEPTQ0MTUmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9NTc2JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html)
And in Astrid´s album:
Eleganz (https://picasaweb.google.com/102861706167408125672/1GermanGlass#5512010836074534946)
Maybe Walther used a different label for this range?
I´m aware it´s far from being a waterproof attribution, but - yet- the best Ican offer... :-\
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thanks Dirk :sun: that's very helpful and now you mention it, it looks like an old fashioned version of Walther glass that I see sometimes (that flowery clear and pink). However, the pink/lilac is not painted on. I reckon it's a kind of spray on iridescent type thing, as in certain light, when I turn the bowl over, the pink bits looking at the base have a kind of bronzey iridescent finish that can't be seen normally.
m
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That adds to the Walther possibility, because some of their colour-added stuff has iridescent colours
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I believe Dirk is right here. I've also seen this same dish in the blue-green colour combination that I have seen the Walther Eleganz vase in. As the colours are rather intense and specific, I automatically assumed it was Walther. Haven't seen one with a label to be sure, though.
Astrid
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Thanks Christine and Astrid. It would be good to find an answer on this one if there are so many around. That also makes me think Walther, because they seem to be a fairly prolific producer :spls:
although that is probably not a good criteria for id'ing something
m
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thanks Tom -
I've also spotted a lidded box on your site - I have a purple one that I think is remarkably similar.
https://picasaweb.google.com/imodito/Glass#5597924949475087602
it is just an attribiution, i'm not sure about it.
here is the link:
http://www.kristallglas-oberursel.net/Text/HistorieKristallglas.html
Tom
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Nice link :hiclp: thank you - yes I realised it was an attribution but still interesting to compare. I was wondering where mine might have come from.
thanks :sun:
m
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Hello Tom,
correct attribution of your hand cut, lidded powder bowl is the Kristallglas GmbH at Oberursel and the Design was created by "Franz Burkert" (1904-1968), who got quite famous for his ageless geometric design during the 50s and 60s. The bowls where still produced in the mid-80s. Hessenglas was only delivering the raw-material; the moulds/Forms were owned by Kristallglas GmbH.
http://www.kristallglas-oberursel.net/Text/ProdukteKristallglas_Puderdosen.html
Greetings from Oberursel,
Oliver
www.kristallglas-oberursel.net
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Oliver, thanks for the link which shows such beautiful pieces :hiclp: Unfortunately, I've just got my lidded pot out to compare and it is a different cut shape. So I may have to look elsewhere again.
Many thanks
m
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I'm on my way out of the house shortly, but tomorrow I'll split this thread into two if that's okay. It gets confusing when two completely different pieces are being discussed in the one thread.