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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: rocco on May 22, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
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Bought this small (height 7.5 cm) smokey green ball-shaped vase with controlled bubbles today, because it looked nice and Scandinavian, cost 1,- Euro and had a paper label (which I didn't look at closely - cost 1,- Euro :)). Bottom nicely finished with ground and polished pontil mark.
To my surprise the label was much more interesting than I thought:
the first line I am not sure of, most likely TIROLGLAS, or maybe TIPOLGLAS (or maybe something completely different ending with -GLAS).
Second line is quite clear, reads LÖTZ - 1830
What do I have here?
My search didn't yield much, couldn't find anything similar from Lötz. Neither did I find a connection from Lötz to Tirol (most western province here in Austria).
The label has a Lötz symbol bottom right (ram rising from a crown), and some eagle symbol upper left, which could be the coat of arms of Austria (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswappen_(%C3%96sterreich)#Geschichte (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswappen_(%C3%96sterreich)#Geschichte)), or that of Tirol http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tirol_Wappen.PNG?uselang=de (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tirol_Wappen.PNG?uselang=de), or...?
Any ideas regarding age, designer etc. of this vase?
Thanks a lot!!
Michael
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As I am still curious (and have put quite some effort in the macro pics :)) I hope that somebody can enlighten me with this piece:
Any ideas regarding this interesting label?
What has it got to do with Lötz Klostermühle? Even extensive searching didn't turn up anything similar from LÖTZ...
What about the age of the piece?
Thanks (and sorry for being obstinate once again :wsh:)
Michael
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I found this set of stemmed wine glasses in pastel colours also with a box and label that sounds to be the same or similar to yours. Seller says they looks 60's and notes them as Lotz Tirol glas.
m
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Thank you very much, m!!
Very interesting that there are other items with the same Lötz and Tirolglas label! (And good to learn that the word really seems to be "TIROL" and not something completely different).
Searching for "Tirolglas" turned up virtually nothing (2 cristal pieces on an Austrian auction site, and this wine decanter: http://cgi.ebay.de/Alte-Weinkaraffe-Glas-Metallstaender-Wein-TOP-/110654719324 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Alte-Weinkaraffe-Glas-Metallstaender-Wein-TOP-/110654719324)); but all 3 have totally different labels...
So what has Lötz got to do with Tirol?
And why would there be post WWII items with Lötz label, when Lötz ceased production before?
A mystery :)
Michael
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Sorry to be so late to the party- your vase was made between 1948 and 1954, during the six years that Tirol Glas was made under this label. After bankruptcy and a major fire in 1939, the Loetz company operated as Kristallglasfabrik Spiegelau GmbH), directed by Karl Baumann. In February 1942, the company was bought at auction by Julius Altmann-Althausen, whose son Kurt married the eldest daughter of Friedrich Spaun, Maria Luisa. This company, Glasfabrik Klostermühle vorm." J. Lötz We., Inh. Julius Altmann-Althausen, was liquidated in 1947; however Julius Altmann-Althausen set up a new glass works in Kufstein in 1948 called Tiroler Glashütte Altmann Althausen, Johann Lötz Enkel KG. It was this company that was responsible for this vase, and the label attached. The company operated for only six years. In short, while it has the Loetz name on the label, and there is a corporate line of succession, the company and the glass it made had no real technical or artistic connection to the company formerly known as Loetz Witwe.
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Hello Galle
Thank you for taking the time to write out the history and the corporate link. Much appreciated as I often wonder about the timeline of these various enterprises and to whom each of the owners might be related.
m
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:) Thanks from me too.
I was reading it, gobsmacked that somebody actually not only had the relevant knowledge but had taken the time and trouble to write it all out so clearly.
I'm sure a lot of folk will be very grateful for this. 8)
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Found this https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Kralik-Art-Glass-Alexandrite-Controlled-Bubble-Rose-Bowl-Ball-Vase-Deco-Czech/153130727610?hash=item23a74d78ba:g:jMYAAOSwDu5bajSV (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Kralik-Art-Glass-Alexandrite-Controlled-Bubble-Rose-Bowl-Ball-Vase-Deco-Czech/153130727610?hash=item23a74d78ba:g:jMYAAOSwDu5bajSV)
[Mod: eBay image removed in accordance with Board Rules on use of copyright material]
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A main point on the eBay vase (linked to in the previous Reply) is that it has an oval label stating: "Made In Czecho Slovakia".
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By the way, the designer of this piece is almost certainly Rolf Eugen Rehfeld (the original poster's ball vase).
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Galle, thank you very much for this tremendously interesting information!
That the company was short-lived also explains why there are fairly few items by them to be found...
OT: I have recently found an interesting late Lötz piece I will post when I find the time to make decent pics, and I would love to have your opinion on that 😊
Michael