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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: Sklounion on February 01, 2006, 09:09:17 PM
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Hi,
You know how it is: You buy a piece of glass, no mention of damage. It arrives. Seller does not respond to queries.
You have a fine/desirable piece of glass, but with waterstaining/iridisation on your glass. Do you get philosophical and think; "Ooooh, what a opportunity to try out preparation X, (X, I said, concentrate, Corporal Jones), and if that fails, substance Y (white crystalline, mildly corrosive (Vim, what else did you think I meant)) or some marvellous spherical objects, (prefer a nice Calvados myself) to gently swirl round inside the glass, in the hope all your troubles will just disappear?
Or is it better just to go " oh happy day", and sling item in the bin?
Go on, who has a proven method to save me from despondency???
TIA,
regards,
Marcus
Mod: This thread has information on chemicals to try to remove water damage, all of which is repeated elsewhere, but also has snippets of info about Sklo Union at the end.
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:cry: :D :cry:
Try various cleaning tricks, if that fails, fill it with water and put a bunch of flowers in it. Fill it with coloured water, put in the bathroom. Fill it with pebbles and stick sticks in it. Fill it with hydrating jelly stuff and plant a bulb in it. Give it to the cats as a drinking bowl/eating bowl. Use it to fill various things with water - the bird bath, other pot plants. Give it to a charity shop, but point out the damage, if you can't bear to look at it any more. Read the thread about nice ebay stories and think about your nice ones.
Go and cuddle your Vizner lamp base. :D
Remember the people who matter. :D :D :D
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Here's a list of solutions I have used on all sorts of staining, limescale etc. Some have worked brilliantly - but not on all marks - depends on the severity and if it has eaten into the glass. What works on one kind of stain, doesn;'t work on another. I have spent a fortune trying to remove staining from one particular item and would have been better off if I had spent £30 on having it professionally done...but here goes:
Coca cola
Vinegar and bicarb of soda
Cillet Bang (household product)
Viakal Lime scale remover
Harpic - toilet cleaner
Oxalic Acid - dangerous and hard to get now due to health and safety regs.
Have left all above solutions in glass for up to 48 hours. Nothing is guaranteed until you wash it out leave to dry and see the result if any.
If you care about it that much - have a professional do it is my advice!!!
Will look forward to other solutions that may be suggested!
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Hi Marcus
I so hate this - I have a beautiful Bengt Orup clear glass with round red top decanter - thing is the glass is effected same as yours, not mildew or scaling. Something more insidious (maybe the water, lime content) put in it over the years has caused an etched effect - almost acid treated look. I can see the build up/or etching in like a map.
I have about six other items like this, including a very expensive Murano Faceted sommerso vase and a piece of Flygsfors.
It so annoys me that I can't have them on show - I have been told the only solution (sic) is a light polishing :roll: :roll:
Adam P
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Erm Marcus...water damage is permanent, it's eaten into the very fabric of the glass, so you're pretty well stuffed if your item has that. You can only cosmetically cover it, unless you get it tumbled.
I've had a spate of damaged goods on Ebay recently. It really ****** me off too! :evil: :evil:
Edit: :idea: I'm thinking of becoming an Ebay Buddhist. Then I won't care about it.
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:D :cry: :D
Sympathies, {{{Max}}}
Marcus see the archived thread at:-
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,286.0.html
I had a beautiful lampshade arrive in a thousand pieces. Lit, it would have looked like the top of a cherry tree, covered in blossom, (except it was orange). It was FAB. :cry::cry::cry: Seller gave an immediate refund, including postage, so full marks there, just why,oh, why did he pack such a delicate thing in a tight, thin box with only one layer of bubblewrap?
My next-door-neighbour is an artist, on the lookout for interesting materials for making mosaics. I gave him the bits. :P
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My next-door-neighbour is an artist, on the lookout for interesting materials for making mosaics. I gave him the bits.
Excellent recylcing Sue! I think we've had this conversation before, but I can't bear to throw away damaged glass. A mosaic glass artist would be a Godsend!
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:shock::lol::shock:
Max, YOU are an artist!
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:shock::lol::shock:
Max, YOU are an artist!
Yeah, but not a mosaic one! Erm...although I have done a couple of mosaic pieces. Glass is sharp though, that's the problem. I wouldn't want to make something that slashes at people! lolol!
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Give it to the cats as a drinking bowl/eating bowl.
:D Only last night when I was putting the bowl of water down in my bedroom for the cats night-time drinkies, I noticed that the piece of plastic sheet I put it on was looking a bit manky and thought to myself, "I must get a proper place-mat for this!" (Two of the cats being Bengals, they tend to splash when they drink :roll: )
Then I suddenly remembered my Walther 'Nymphen' (mermaid) tray, which was cracked and which I had repaired by that wonderful Basil Loveridge :D A little while ago I was lucky enough to get a replacement in perfect condition so I put the original away. (I couldn't just chuck it out 'cos it's still very beautiful - and I did pay for it to be repaired! :roll: )
So now the cats have their night-time drink on a beautiful glass tray! :D I just hope those spoilt girls appreciate it! :twisted: :wink: :lol:
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Leni said
So now the cats have their night-time drink on a beautiful glass tray! I just hope those spoilt girls appreciate it!
That's another great use for our doubled-up glass items. :D Lucky cats!
I remember I told a chap at the Cambridge Glass Fair (who was exhibiting a large streaky, knobbly WF glass bowl) "I use one of those for a cat bowl". He was very unimpressed, and I felt awful! lol!
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:D:D:D
I'm not sure I'd have used a streaky knobbly WF bowl for the cats, Max, I really like them, and would worry a little about causing water damage, on the other hand, I'm a little green around the edges, as I think about the idea of sophisticated cats drinking out of it! No different really to using lovely wine glasses, I think using beautiful things does enhance life.
Well done Leni!
Mine have recently taken to drinking out of a very old cut glass jug - although probably not antique yet. I don't think it's anything really good, but it's been in the family all my life and familiarity can breed contempt.
At my brother's house once I saw the cats jumping onto the coffee table and drinking out of the bowl of floating candles. I said, "The cats are drinking out of your floating candle bowl!". My brother said, "No, there are candles in the cat's drinking bowl."
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I really like the sound of your brother!!!!!
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I had to buy a 'tumble-up' for my night-time drink of water, 'cos one cat kept jumping up onto the bedside table and sticking her head in my glass of water! :evil: :roll:
I think I like your brother, too, Sue! :lol:
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We have exactly the same problem here Leni, but we don't have a tumble-up. :(
Books placed on top of the glass are just shoved off with a paw. :evil: The only fail safe way to tell if your glass has been catted, is to check for splashes around the surrounding area. I'm sure we've shared our water with them before now. Ewww! Or is that Mewwwww! :roll: IGMC
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We have exactly the same problem here Leni, but we don't have a tumble-up. :(
I got a nice hand-painted one very cheap on ebay :lol:
I'm sure we've shared our water with them before now. Ewww! Or is that Mewwwww! :roll: IGMC
I'm sure I've drunk 'catted' water before now, but the final straw was when Pashmina got her big fat head stuck in the glass (it was one of Adam A's lovely heavy 'bubbled' glasses) and knocked the whole lot over! :evil: :roll:
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Well I just bought some photo lights from a seller on the Dutch Markplaats. Very enthusiastic and quick to answer mails.
The items arrived but were completely different from those shown in the photo and no stands... as in the photo. Contact seller, not a sound...
No purchase protection, no feed back mechanism. Stuffed. My only hope now is selling on eBay for more than I paid.
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Thanks for your feed-back on this.
Every cloud so they say has a silver lining. In this case, closer examination shows a number of interesting issues.
It is an early Vizner vase for Sklo Union, and is shown in the Warmus book on Vizner. Yet, when looked at very closely:
The quality of the mould is mediocre, with quite clear surface pitting in the mould's exterior surfaces. There are really quite pronounced mould lines.
There are a number of large pressing flaws.
This is not the first piece like this.
I was recently sent two variants of another Sklo Union vase, ostensibly matching an earlier acquisition (Thanks, Peter).
These are hand-pressed, and though not yet with an id of the designer, there are wide variations between the three. Two are topaz, of different shades. Both exhibit a round shouldered plunger, yet the blue vase, same pattern has a much different plunger shape? or is that merely caused by post-pressing finishing? Heights differ by upto 1cm and widths are varied.
(I shall be posting more images to the Sklo Union thread as soon as I am able)
They are very rewarding, and show just how difficult getting things right, from the gather onwards, is, even for highly skilled workers.
Today, I am not so upset. :lol:
Regards,
Marcus