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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Sussex_Oast on May 23, 2011, 06:36:44 PM
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Hello All
Having a spot of bother identifying my Uranium Glass collection! I have no source books on them and frankly no idea where to start! I feel that this might be Whitefriars but I cannot find a solid record of Whitefriars Uranium pieces. Can anyone help with this?
Many thanks
Simon
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Welcome Simon,you've come to the right place,lots of WF's buffs (they don't like being called experts) afraid I'm not one of them despite having a few pieces ;D ;D
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Hi and welcome :hi:
We have a fair few folk here intersted in Uranuim glass of all sorts - who may be able to help - but it would be much easier if we could see the piece without the dark lighting!
A profile shot, a shot of the rim and of the base, with the details being visible are what we need - but we also need to see what colour the glass is without the uv thing - uranium glass comes in many, many colours.
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Cheers Keith! I've been reading the glass message board for years but never got round to putting some of my pieces on! Hoping now I have organised my time better I can take more of an active role! :t:
I've got about 800 pieces so it should keep me busy identifying them!
regards
simon
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Okey Dokey! I will go back and get those pics for you! I will add them shortly! :wsh:
Thanks again!
Simon
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Phew! Quick dash to my Studio and here ya go!
Are these ok?
thanks
Simon
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must admit that I had also pondered the question of whether W/Fs. had ever produced uranium glass - Jackson doesn't include it in her glossary of term - and I don't recall seeing reference to uranium on the Whitefriars.com site - but could, of course, have missed it. Is anyone able to enlighten us? I wasn't aware that real uranium glass came "in many, many colours". Anyway, nice piece Sussex_Oast, and welcome to the GMB :)
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Many Thanks Paul!
I am aware that Whitefriars did make a lot of Uranium glass but I have only seen selected images of it and even then very few are confirmed as being definately Whitefriars. I also have to say that from the few pieces of Uranium glass which I do have it is in a few different shades from pale yellow to vivid green possibly that might help to identify it? :X:
Simon
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:hiclp: :hiclp: Very Pretty.
I do not know the maker, but I have seen some Fenton glass (ruffed) and go from pale green. I think it is called (??) Vaseline Opalescent.
Just throwing this out there, and stand to be corrected.... :spls2:
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apologies Simon - obviously I'm short-sighted tonight - hadn't seen that you had included your name at the end of the post. :)
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No problem Paul! ;D
Thank you too for the compliments! It is a lovely piece and I would really like to know if it is Whitefriars or not! I'll just have to wait and see if anyone has any info on it :X:
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:hi: It looks more like Webb to me IE the shape is not typical Powell also it looks a little thicker and heavier than most Powell (Whitefriars ) pieces , i would like to hear Nigels opinion as well .
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Thank you for your interest. I have looked through all my Webb photos and cannot find anything similar to this piece. Do you happen to know of any similar pieces or photographs of them?
cheers
Simon
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Webb did a uranium glass, called "honey amber", which is a very dirty brown colour.
Until you get a ray of sunshine on it. :sun: :sun: :sun:
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Whitefriars straw opal is uranium, but this is not that. The straw opal pieces tend to much finer and more delicate as JP says. Many manufacturers made uranium glass like this with opalescent detail. I doubt that you will find a manufacturer.
Uranium glass comes in shades of yellow, shades of green, shades of blue, shades of cream, white, grey, pink and shades of brown/amber. If you count the various shades, then yes many, many colours.
Barrie Skelcher's books are a good place to start, though his attributions are not all correct. General glass books of the period/country you are interested in are good too because coloured glass was often made in several colours, including uranium containing ones.
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Thanks Christine!
I was hoping for a positive i.d. but I know it's a mine field!!! I'll check out the books you suggested, thanks!
I do have what I believe are Whitefriars Straw uranium dishes. Maybe I should post them up to see if they really are the real thing!
regards
Simon
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Webb did a uranium glass, called "honey amber", which is a very dirty brown colour.
Until you get a ray of sunshine on it. :sun: :sun: :sun:
Just an FYI: In the back of Hadjamach's book (BRITISH GLASS 1800-1914), there are formulas used to make glass by Webb. There are 19 different formulas that use uranium oxide/dioxide as part of the formula, and any of those will glow.
Mr. Vaseline Glass
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yes thanks, and I knew Sue was having a little dig at me (but very nicely, because she is a nice girl, apparently :P) - and you are referring, of course, to page 432 in said book. I think that an equally interesting page is in another book, although it concerns the same manufacturer i.e. Webb (English). If you look at Barrie Skelcher's 'The Big Book of Vaseline Glass' (Schiffer 2002) - page 119 - you will see that Table No. 2 is columned to give the estimated density and uranium concentrations in Webb's Nineteenth Century Mixes. It would appear that in Hajdamach's book (not Hadjamach by the way), his list of formulae are for five finished colours only. However, in Skecher the author actually names these 19 resulting colours, with such diverse hues as Carmine, Dark Casing Green, Rich Topaz and Lustrousstone's 'Lemonescent'. I have to say, however, that I haven't a clue what 'Oriental' 'Cyrysoprase' or 'Tricolour' look like. So, I will grudgingly accept that Sue was correct with many, many colours/hues - only joking Sue. Perhaps Christine will now tell us what 'Orienta'l and 'Tricolour' look like. Thanks for the email, at least it gets us looking at some of these more obscure matters.