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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Frank on June 08, 2011, 10:41:59 PM
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Any ideas on this beastie?
305 high (1 foot) 145 ΓΈ 1650g Mould blown, hand finished, flowers in bamboo arches, snapped off pontil scar under base.
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:hi: Could it be Catalonia design around 1920's/30's. The only reason is that I am sure I have seen something similar in one of my books. Would you say that the colour is emerald green and is there a stopper? :rah:
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this is not too dissimilar to a piece I have had for years and never found out what it was although when I looked at the base in a decent light there are some raised letters albeit faint and I could just make out USA
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Will have to look again for marking, but no sign of ever having carried a lid. Green in pics is close to life.
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Turns out that this is probably a Grave Light and in this large size able to hold a 7 day candle. It lack a metal windshield. Now, which country and maker :X:
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Looks to me to be a Pickle Jar from the 1890's which were manufactured by several companies here in the U.S. (Westmoreland Glass for example) & were sold as "home packer goods" for canning. They were large jars usually 12" to 14" in height & mold blown with rough pontils.
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I seriously doubt this is anything like that old... 1920s absolute earliest but most likely 50s/60s
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It reminds me of this pickle jar on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOVE-BIRDS-Pickle-Jar-VASE-9-Green-Glass-c1920-/260848925387?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbcebacb
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and this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Goofus-Glass-Style-Hand-Blown-Pickle-Jar-Vase-/230661397746?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b47d9cf2
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I can see why folk think this is one of the US pickle jars but both of the eBay examples are much higher quality by comparison and the moulding is better as you would expect with that period in USA.
It is the poor moulding that leads me to still think Europe and later. Also the rim on this is unsuited for a closure but perfect for fitting a metal windshield. The style is also similar to modern production... here are some Polish ones, link via Anik, http://www.wymiarki-en.polfirms.eu/znicze01.html apparently there are many producers of these and are popular in Germany, Poland and Czechia.
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Well you learn something new everyday if you listen long enough. I never knew there was such a thing as a gravelight container. I will be more watchful in the future. Thanks for sharing the link. I picture really is worth a thousand words. :-[
Have a blessed day
kathy
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Just an aside, I don't believe it's Consolidated 'Catalonian', if that was the suggestion Madam Medusa was making.
http://chataboutdg.com/forums/ use search_keywords=haley
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Also look at the lower portion shape of the pickle jars compared to this which is not practical for food use.
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American one on ebay, another term seems to be Sanctuary light... or was that to get round eBay rules of no grave stuff. Why not one wonders... ::)
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Also look at the lower portion shape of the pickle jars compared to this which is not practical for food use.
Maybe so Frank, but that shape didn't stop Westmoreland from making them although this is the pickle jar with the top reworked for a vase made in the mid to late 20's. The shape of yours reminded me of theirs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Westmoreland-Paneled-Grape-Blown-Pickle-Jar-Vase-12-/390061094526?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad173f67e
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I'll be incredibly stubborn and perhaps a bit arrogant, and insist Frank's piece is a grave light. We (the Polish nation) use them every time we go to the cemetery and say a prayer for those who are no longer with us. On All Souls day, the cemeteries burn brightly with thousands of such lights. See here (http://www.google.com/search?q=dzien+zadumy&hl=pl&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=dudqTsuNMqqN4gSB8c2IBQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=513#num=10&hl=pl&tbm=isch&q=wszystkich+%C5%9Bwi%C4%99tych+cmentarz&revid=415490269&sa=X&ei=mudqTpW7E8SbOv-z6coF&sqi=2&ved=0CDkQ1QIoAQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=4b5c7411d0acf777&biw=1024&bih=513) for some photographs.
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Evidently I was not specific enough in my comment as I was not disputing Frank's use attibution as a grave marker light. I was simply showing that this waisted design was also used (in the U.S.) as a food container & its at times its difficult to assign a singular usage according to design. You just never know what the usage a design might have in different parts of the world.
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Just wanted to say thanks to Frank...I'd never even heard of a grave light! Interesting!
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Great pictures Anik, now could you please tour the Polish graveyards in daylight to see if you can find this design... perhaps we can ask the relatives where they bought it >:D :wsh: