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Title: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: glassobsessed on June 12, 2011, 10:32:15 PM
This is one of the first bits I bought when I started buying 'art' glass, for the time that I had it it remained unidentified. A friend bought it from me when I was having a clear out a couple of years ago and a while later I spotted a few similar vases and thought it was likely made at Skrdlovice.

It now resides in deepest darkest West Wales (well it was today, it did not stop raining once) and today was the first time I have remembered to take a photo of it.

It's rather large at 32cm, very thick walled, extremely heavy with a heat finished rim.

John



Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: Anne on June 13, 2011, 12:50:21 AM
John, I remember seeing these in Glass Forest in Harrogate several years ago in the section with their Beranek glass and loved them! :mrgreen: I note they were called Ice in the previous Glass Forest catalogue (archived copy here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060130191746/http://glassforest.co.uk/vases-bubble.php)

And according to the 2007 Beranek Skrdlovice catalogue (happily still online here: http://www.refinex.cz/bg/) they are 10 1986 11/32  - 10 1986 11/21 (two sizes ) and the designer was Petr Hora. There are 5 different colour versions shown.

Petr Hora has his own website now: http://www.petrhora.com/
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: glassobsessed on June 13, 2011, 08:10:44 AM
That's definitely the vase Anne thank you, that is really useful.

Why Petr Hora though? The Beranek site lists this design as Vizner: http://www.refinex.cz/bg/default.aspx?menulevel=&subMenu_level=13&lang=EN&page_=59&maxpage_=0

John
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: bOBA on June 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
I mentioned this to GMB member Jindrich, his studies of Mr Vizner's work meant he could quickly confirm the design as 100 per cent by Vizner for Skrdlovice, pattern number 8611/32. Any alternative explanation is just an error somewhere. A really impressive piece of glass... currently decorating a corner of Wales? Sounds great.


Robert (bOBA)

Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: glassobsessed on June 13, 2011, 12:16:04 PM
Thank you Robert (and Jindrich) for confirming that and for the details. It really is a lovely piece of glass and from a great designer too. It is one of my few 'regrets' in terms of things I have sold (but later would have happily kept) but Amanda always had good taste and I get visiting rights to it a few times every year. ;D

I should add that the base is polished flat and the colour is not quite as blue as it appears in the photos, it is a slightly paler icy blue in the flesh.

John
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: Anne on June 14, 2011, 12:16:31 AM
Hmmm looks like an error on the website then John... each of those vases has the same credit below it on their individual page... as I can't like directly to the page I've done a capture to show what it says... until I saw the page I'd thought they were Vizner as well.

Mod: screenie removed now I've managed a link to the right page!
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 14, 2011, 06:19:21 AM
You mean this page http://www.refinex.cz/bg/catalogue/second.aspx?souprava=8611&strana=1

(Right click, this frame, open frame in new tab. Same as for Pamela's site)
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: glassobsessed on June 14, 2011, 09:07:42 AM
Anne, are you intimating that t'internet is not infallible?

Eek! ;D

John
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: bOBA on June 14, 2011, 10:33:05 AM
If it written down, it has to be true! It reminds me of one of my favourite jokes (credited to Vic Reeves in a Guinness advert some years ago) "Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up?"

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: glassobsessed on June 14, 2011, 11:19:37 AM
The other 17% are just misrepresented......
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: Anne on June 14, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Thanks Christine that goes to the page above the one I was trying to link to! :) This is the one I wanted: http://www.refinex.cz/bg/catalogue/send.aspx?partnum=0&pk=426 - I'll remove my screenie now :)

Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 14, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
 :thud:
Not quite sure what you mean, Anne  :spls: What is your "screenie"?

"There are lies, there are downright lies..... and there are statistics."
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 14, 2011, 02:29:16 PM
Screengrab

Mine shows all the colours and all the sizes...
Title: Re: Is this vase Frantisek Vizner and Skrdlovice?
Post by: Anne on June 14, 2011, 08:24:25 PM
Sue it was a screen capture image of the page I couldn't link to earlier... I've removed it now,  thanks to Christine's help with the link. :)