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Title: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 17, 2011, 01:07:12 AM
I am new to this and not sure how to post pics. I bought a signed red bowl and was told it was Murano. I then showed pics and talked to the Murano specialist and was told no, it was not, it was an Afors, the letters tend to say they are right, can someone please help me identify it and what it's value could be? thanks tons
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: langhaugh on June 17, 2011, 04:06:18 AM
Highly probable that it's an Afors, not Murano. I'm not too up on Afors prices, but I suspect that it depends very much on the designer of the piece. It's likely to be higher if designed by Ernest Gordon or Bertil Vallien, who designed for Afors before it became part of the Kosta Boda group.  Usually the designer would have his name or initials on a piece he or she designed for Afors.

It's a nice piece. I collect both Scandinavian and Murano, and I wouldn't be at all disappointed that this isn't Murano, unless you paid a very high price for it.

Hope this helps a little.

David

Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: ahremck on June 17, 2011, 12:39:42 PM
On the base I can see Afors and 4 digit number.  Could you please spend the time to get a good photo of the full base.  The engraved writing ought to stand out more if you simply rub a small amount of talc into the groves and wipe off the excess.  Many of us have collected for some time and they may have catalogs or recognise signatures - one of the great benefits of the site.

Ross
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 17, 2011, 04:59:35 PM
I paid around $55.00 for it, I am trying to get another pic out for you, charging my camera! thanks again!
Title: Any info on this for me?
Post by: cindyann on June 26, 2011, 04:42:55 AM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5075/5871884200_891bfacb7d.jpg)


I would love some info on who made this, what year etc. Thanks! I had posted this previously so please help!
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 28, 2011, 02:34:32 AM
If you could give me an idea of this piece, I would truly appreciate it..age, etc and value if possible?
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 29, 2011, 05:33:06 PM
Still haven't had anything back on this piece, anyone? :)
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: langhaugh on June 29, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
I don't think you will find out much more about it. There doesn't seem to be a great deal of information about Afors unless it's about one their more famous designers, Ernest Gordon or Bertil Vallien. My take on your piece is that it's an OK little piece but there's not a lot to distinguish it. Certainly I don't see the hand of a great designer in it.  If you want an opinion re value, $55 seems more than a little high. Here's a marked Afors piece I have that I paid much less for.

David
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 29, 2011, 10:40:57 PM
I was really putting this pic up for Ross. I appreciate your thinking my piece is "ok" I think it it beautiful and quite nicely done. I will try to find out more about it from a person who has alot more information, but thanks. I think your piece is "ok" as well. I don't feel I overpaid either, it is a unique piece regardless.
Cheers
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: langhaugh on June 30, 2011, 02:55:56 AM
Cindyann:

My apologies. I didn't intend to offend you. Perhaps in future if you ask "anyone" for information you could make it clear who you're asking asking and what type of info you want.

David

Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 30, 2011, 06:49:42 AM
I don't think David was disparaging your piece. I think he was trying to say it was standard production, which means it's unlikely to be unique. Afors was a glass factory, therefore they would have produced 100s of these. The number is a design number. The fact that it has Afors on the bottom indicates that it was produced before 1976. After then it would have had Kosta Boda on it.

Little is known about Afors I suspect because it became part of the much larger Kosta in 1946, though its products weren't marked Kosta Boda until 1976.

Ross asked for a better picture for the benefit of everyone reading the board; the better the quality of the information and photos you supply the more likely it is that someone may be able to help.

Value is subjective, so you are unlikely to get much more help on this board than David has given you. Ebay is always a good place to look for current prices.

The important thing is that you like it (after all, everyone's taste is different) and you are happy with what you paid.
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 30, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
My apologies as well, I shouldn't have gotten so offended, sorry David. I appreciate your time and advice, I was not having a very good day yesterday and I by no means should have taken that out on you! I love the piece I have and and that is all that matters. Thanks again.
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: langhaugh on June 30, 2011, 05:24:11 PM
CIndyann:

Thanks for clearing that up. I agree that monetary value and uniqueness of the piece (or otherwise) aren't the most important factors. The origins of my Afors piece may be humble, but it is still displayed proudly.

And thanks to Lustrousstone (Christine) for writing what I was trying to write much more clearly.  Editors are wonderful.

David
Title: Re: signed afors 3045 red bowl
Post by: cindyann on June 30, 2011, 10:29:59 PM
Agreed and your piece is very lovely and my favorite color!  :girlcheer: