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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: goyjus on June 25, 2011, 06:09:27 PM
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Can anyone help me identify this very unusual jack-in-the-pulpit vase?
It's 13in tall at highest point with glass 'tendrils' around the body and some iridescent decoration.
Any advice/opinions/information hugely appreciated.
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We really need a base shot please
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Sure no probs.
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Does this base shot shed any light?
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It would really help to know where you are located on the planet - but I suspect this is possibly early-ish American studio glass.
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Thanks for this, Sue. I'm actually London based. I bought the piece a few years ago and I'm pretty sure the seller was from somewhere in the South East of England. When you say early, do you mean early 20th Century?
Cheers
Anthony
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My thoughts were more along the lines of Baijan glass http://www.baijanglass.com/
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I've never heard of that or seen it before, Christine!!!!!!
I think you could well be right. :thup:
amazing, love it - and I love this bit even if it is a jip.
Anthony, by early Studio glass (I should have capitalised that :-[ ) I would be meaning from the mid-late '60s on, when Studio Glass as an Art Movement was instigated in America.
(I was distracted by the specific colours of enamels and the use of silver chloride salts. I can't help it. I've got an addiction to the use of silver chloride in/on/escaping from glass...... :help: )
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Thanks for your responses. I can see the similarity with Baijan Glass but it feels like it has more age to it. Difficult to gauge from pics, I realise.
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More age than what? it might not be current production. It's unlikely to be more than 20-30 years old, if that.
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More age than the 11 years it says on their website that the designer's been involve in making glass.
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I'll only say that 95% (at least) of U.S. studio glass is/was signed & that goes back when the wave first hit. You might not be able to read the signature or they might have been in business for a short period of time, but they signed it...after all most of these people were trying to build a clientele & make money. There were hundreds of these studio operations in the mid 80's, but a decade later 95% of them were long gone & the movement was dead except for a few that managed to succeed. Ditto to Art pottery during this same time period.
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Thanks for that, Ohio. This piece is definitely not signed anywhere...
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Which would propably push us back to Baijan glass.
While it might have been in operation as a working business for only 11 years - training in hot glass takes a good 10 years to become competent - and artist could well have been working and making bits like this well before he set up officially.
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You could email and ask.
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I have one of the vases from Baijan glass and I have to say it is absolutely impeccably and beautifully made ...I love it. I also like your piece as well. Mine is unsigned. http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40777.msg226010.html#msg226010
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Yes, I think that would be a great idea. But there are no contact details on the website. Will try and track them down. Thanks for the lead, Christine. Will let you know how I get on...
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I had a bit of a look through the catalogue - but I didn't spot anything with silver chloride effects. (that's your iridesence - silvery yellowy bluey stuff is from the reactions of silver and glass together in heat.)
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It's a bit of a mystery piece, heh? The top part of the piece really does have the feel of a typical piece of 60s studio glass. But the 'tendril' and silver chloride decoration really throw me. I have another piece listed that I also showed to an auctioneer and his feeling was they were both of Bohemian origin.
Thanks for all your info and suggestions...
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There are contact details on the Baijan Glass website. Will them a picture and see what they say...
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Unfortunately, Bohemian is a bit of an auction house cover all. This JIP strikes me as being much, much newer (as does the other vase) than Bohemian (pre-1918), when JIPs were still Victorian in style or more along the lines of Kralik/Tiffany/Loetz.
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Thanks Christine. I bought the two pieces from the same person. They weren't able to give me much info unfortunately.
Thanks for your post too, flying free. Sorry, I missed it earlier.
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In that case, I would ask Baijan about both
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Is there not a more contemporary Czechoslovakian glass maker making iridescent pieces? Jan Zemon? maybe? I need to have a quick look round to check the spelling but that may also be worth a look just to see if he has made JIP in the past. OOps :-[ I've just seen your other thread and Mike has already suggested him.
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This jip isn't really properly iridescent - it's silver chloride applied to the glass.
(The crystals of AgCl become liquid in the heat and run around over the glass.)
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Perhaps unrelated, but Robert Eickholt has recently unretired (2008 retirement) & is producing studio glass one again what appears to be a limited basis from September to May of each year. He was one of our most prolific & well known U.S. studio operations along with Lundberg, Orient & Flume & Fenton's cameo operation by Kelsey Murphy and Robert Bomkamp so if you run across an Eickholt piece signed 2011 don't be suprised. Ken
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Christine - you were right. This is the reply I received from Essie Zareh:
"This vase is one of our old style avses that were made, I dont know when you have bought this and where, let me know, I can tell you more about it."
I've replied with the pictures of the other piece and ask if she can tell me when and by whom it was made.
You must have a great eye for these things - great call. Thank you!
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Essie Zarah is a fella ;D
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Ah! Well, I shan't hold it against him ;-)
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Still no reply from Essie Zareh. Not sure if this is an appropriate thing to ask but can anyone help with a ballpark valuation?
Any thoughts appreciated!