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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Greg. on June 30, 2011, 10:23:06 AM
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Hi All,
Hoping someone can help with trying to identify the signature on this Mdina Chalice.
Signed 'Mdina Glass 1975' followed by a signature, all in script.
Appreciate the form/shape of the chalice is later in date than the more tapered bowls on the earlier chalices.
Wondering if the signature was Eric Dobson's or possibly Joseph Said, I gather that many other employees also signed their work. However would be interested to hear your thoughts.....
Hope the pic of the signature is clear enough, really tricky trying to pic up with the camera, best of several takes!
Much appreciated.
Greg
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Unfortunately, there's a reflection on an important bit of the squiggle - could you try again, perhaps with a bit of talc to show the shape of the squiggle up better?
Have you seen many early chalices, Greg? I have about 5, but I have noticed since Mark's book was published, the early ones have only been significant by their absence. :spls:
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Hi Sue,
Couple of new pictures of the signature attached. One of the shots is clearer, however the other still has the reflection, although I managed to move the reflection away from the beginning of the signature. Hope this helps, if you need any other shots just let me know and I'll try a few others.
I've seen a handful of earlier chalices around for sale, although not online and they have been on the expensive side of expensive! - They do seem to have become rather thin on the ground.
Thanks,
Greg
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It starts a bit like Said's squiggle, but looks a bit longer than usual. Dobson's writing is quite spikey. :huh:
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Oh well........Thanks for taking a look Sue, much appreciated.
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Yours looks like a 'fuzzier' version of this one Greg:-
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7840
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May be my imagination, because im always confused with anything but Michaels signature,
but i think it looks like it could end in Dobson? maybe its Eric Dobson?
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Thanks Rosie and Andy.
When I first looked at the signature my first thoughts were that it looked like 'Dobson', although I'm not that familiar with his signature to be honest....
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Here are two images - one of a confirmed Eric Dobson signature, the other, a confirmed Joseph Said signature.
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thanks for the comparisons Sue. I see what you mean, in comparison it does look closer to Joseph Said signature, albeit a little longer....looks like a lazy Said signature or another employee altogether then.... :-\
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Thanks Sue, they dont make it easy though ::)
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If the squiggle ends in an upstroke then Said, if it ends in a downstroke then Dobson. The signature in question looks like it ends in a downstroke so Dobson I would guess.
Both names were likely signed by whoever's job it was to do the signing, I have never heard that anyone else's name might be represented.
Forget deciphering them, life is too short.
John
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So what do you make of the completely unknown and unrecognisable signature, John? :help:
I have discussed this pawmark with Ron - he has no idea either. He did contact Paul Said, and was told Paul never, ever signed anything.
As you say, the only known signatures are Michael Harris', Joseph Said's and Eric Dobson's.
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Squiggle with an upstroke. ;D
Somebody else was signing that day. It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it......
John
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