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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Jeffingtons on July 18, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
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Hi
I'm new to glass collecting (and glassmessages.com). Bought this blue ribbed optic vase from a junk shop and am struggling to identify where it's from. Have seen similar optic vases in other colours that have been suggested as Whitefriars or Strombergshyttan. Leaning towards latter as Whitefriars examples appear to be clear cased and this is not. Have scoured the web looking for examples but not found much to help.
It's about 12 inches tall, about 6 inches at widest diameter and weighs just under 2.5kg. It has no marks or signatures.
I'd really appreciate any help in attributing maker/designer. Links to images below.
Thanks
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffstuka/5950145655/in/photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffstuka/5950145655/in/photostream)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffstuka/5950705774/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffstuka/5950705774/in/photostream/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffstuka/5950147547/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffstuka/5950147547/in/photostream/)
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Hi and welcome to the Board.
The piece doesn't remind of Stromberghshyttan (the mouth, the base and even the colour). And Strombergshyttan marked their pieces. Sorry I can't be more constructive.
David
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Cheers. Narrows it down a bit at least.
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WMF anyone?
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Cheers. Do you know if there is a ref book of WMF patterns I could search through?
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Been doing some image browsing for WMF and found the following that design wise are not a million miles from my piece. It's almost like a missing link between the two though whether that's just wishful thinking on my part is another matter.
http://cgi.ebay.ch/WMF-Glas-Vase-Turmalin-Grun-Wilhelm-Wagenfeld-Design-/250619904399?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3a5a1c418f
http://cgi.ebay.ch/Vase-Felicitas-Bauhaus-Design-Wilhelm-Wagenfeld-1938-/250689581986
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Hi Jeff,
the sellers are almost accurate.... ;D
Number one is correctly described; number two is not a ´Felicitas´, which is a design by Richard
Lauke for VLG (Vereinigte Lausitzer Glaswerke - United Lausitian Glasworks), but it is a design
by Wilhelm Wagenfeld for VLG.
Sorry I can´t be of further help. I´ve seen a few of these vases over the years, but never ever a
labelled one. :)
Theresienthal might be a further candidate. They used this colour and technique, but mind this
example is mould-blown with a ground and polished rim - and - like elsewhere successful designs
have usually been ´adopted´ by other glassworks:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Grosse-Vase-THERESIENTHAL-grunes-Kristallglas-Top-70er-/250850887467?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item3a67e0c72b
edit: sorry, got a bit confused about the colours, which is only remotely similar - too much
browsing today, I suppose... :pb:
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Interesting. If you've never seen a labelled one I'd say that's promising in that it's consistent with mine. Found another Wagenfeld example that has similarities.
http://www.hood.de/auction/34803061/wagenfeld-wmf-glas-vase-kerzenhalter-pfeifenhalter.htm
WMF/VLG appear to be the primary candidates right now.
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;D Well, that´s not a Wagenfeld, but a design by Wilhelm Radtke for WMF. Please don´t expect too much accuracy
from sellers; just keep a healthy cautiousness.
Perhaps my earlier comment was a bit short... Your vase for sure is neither one of Wilhelm Wagenfeld´s designs, which
are quite well documented, nor is it VLG production (none of their documented colours).
Unfortunately we (so far - let´s wait and see) can only find some similarities to WMF and Theresienthal production, which
doesn´t exclude the possibility we´re all completely on the wrong track...
I know - it´s not much, but it´s a start at least....
BTW welcome! :)
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Thanks. Whoever it's by it's a lovely thing. Would be nice if we can solve the mystery but will be enjoyed regardless
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Bored on NYE, so thought I'd bump a couple of very old posts. It's been over 8 years since I first bought this. I knew nothing at the time I bought it.
In all that time, having ruled out all usual subjects for optic glass, I've only seen two things that it come close to a match.
1) Optic ribbed bucket, close in colour but the polished pontil is very different - much smaller and too different in my opinion to be the same company
https://www.drallum.co.uk/sold-mid-century-art-glass-horizontal-optic-ribbed-bucket-vase-sea-green-8-c1940s-923-p.asp
2) A gold optic ribbed vase - ribbing is different but the wide polished pontil looks similar in dimensions/finish to mine. It has a Made in Sweden label on it that appears to be paper. I can't recall seeing this type before, and stylistically it looks to be earlier than the common mid-century ones I've found.
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/49797-swedish-modern-optic-vase-in-yellowage
So my current theory is Scandinavian, pre-1950 (a tenuous opinion until more evidence can be found). Does anyone recognise the label on the yellow vase, or have any other thoughts?
I've attached some current pictures for the heck of it.
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Bored on NYE...I’m not the only one then ;D
Probably not much help, but I have a golden horizontal optic ribbed example that is 12 inches tall and 8.5 inches diameter with a nice polished pontil. It looks similar the the Scandinavian one on your second link. I think mine might be bohemian though, like the labeled one here: http://whitefriarsglasswannabees.blogspot.com/2010/08/optic-ribbed-vases.html
Makes a nice waste paper bin (credit to the gmb).