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Title: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: claretjugcollector on July 26, 2011, 01:07:17 PM

haven´t been here for a quite long time - shame on me  :cry:
but now i am back with new problems - i have been offered this crystal jug - not sure if it is english or american intaglio cut glass - there is an article on the internet .. http://www.amcutglass.com/engraving4.html ... which says .. oh my god it says a lot .. anyway not sure if english or american - the mounting is american - stamped STERLING .. who can help please ?

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: Frank on July 26, 2011, 01:12:41 PM

American importers did source their own fittings as did British importers on Bohemian glass. Is a Bohemian or French source already eliminated?

ps did you see the tazza posted yesterday http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,42030.0.html

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: claretjugcollector on July 26, 2011, 01:26:41 PM

thx for your quick reply ..  :hi: don´t think its french - or bohemian either .. i just talked to Charles Hajdamach - he said : .. " It's a hard call to make about whether it is English or American, as, as you know, engravers in both countries did similar high qaulity work. As it has American silver marks I would go along with it being American and by one of the top engravers working there. Date wise, if it was English, I would have thought it was towards the end of that 1890-1900 period. I say that because from the photos, it looks as if the body has been blown into a mould to give the impression of being cut out from a solid blank. Certainly in England that was happening from that period onwards to reduce overall costs.... " so far so good .. !

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: krsilber on July 26, 2011, 07:02:19 PM

Hi Thomas,

I agree with Hadjamach - hard to tell whether English or American with this sort of thing.  However, I would lean toward English because of the dragons; they weren't so popular in the US.

Can you tell whether the interior bulges out in the same place as it bulges out on the outside?  That would show the basic shape was made with a mold, probably a distorting (skeleton) mold, with movable arms.

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: claretjugcollector on July 26, 2011, 07:52:35 PM

Hi kristi  :hiclp:

no idea - because i haven´t handled it yet - its still in Ohio i believe ... ! but i think the " mold theory " is possible .. will tell once i´ve received it :-)

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: krsilber on July 27, 2011, 04:20:23 AM

Whoops, "Hajdamach."  I always spell that wrong.


Gorgeous jug.  Congratulations.

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: claretjugcollector on July 28, 2011, 04:52:13 PM

thx ever so much  :hi:

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 28, 2011, 05:07:06 PM

 :hi:
One of your nicest yet, Thomas - I like dragons much, much more than flowers and/or ormalu.

Title: Re: American / english intaglio cut glass claret jug .. ?!
Post by: claretjugcollector on July 28, 2011, 05:15:39 PM

Hello to Scotland ..  :hiclp: many many thx