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Title: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: keith on July 27, 2011, 01:25:06 PM

11 inches tall,the design looks like a transfer but has very little wear,no marks with a moulded base,Bohemian I presume,got this after a very nice cup of tea with David,Patricia and Ming :t: ;D ;D

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 27, 2011, 01:50:53 PM

Use a magnifying glass. If you can see dots, it's a transfer. It might be French or not

D&P were still there when Ming got there!!! :o

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: jsmeasell on July 27, 2011, 02:09:25 PM

This piece may be a lamp base.

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: keith on July 27, 2011, 03:42:49 PM

Thanks Christine,James,no dots,close up it looks like a paper transfer but is very hard,if it was a transfer I'd have thought there would have been more wear,the wide base does make it look like a lamp base ;D ;D

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 27, 2011, 05:51:33 PM

Enamelled then; transfers show dots

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: keith on July 27, 2011, 06:17:29 PM

Thanks Christine,yes they were still there,Patricia got a satin air trap vase in pink,David a Victorian scrapbook(I think he said) and I'm not sure Ming bought anything,he has more willpower than me ::)

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: Ming on July 28, 2011, 12:55:53 AM

I did not get anything in glass. But l gone crazy and bought a Chinese metal snuff box in a shape of a Chinese lady bounded feet shoe.

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: Frank on July 28, 2011, 10:56:42 AM

I would say transfer, only half-tone printed transfers show dots, continuous line printed and hand painted transfers do not. The colours on the transfer would of course be enamel that fuses to the glass. Although American companies have made more use of cold transfers and those will wear off.

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: keith on July 28, 2011, 03:36:02 PM

Thanks Frank,any particular factory/factories come to mind?
 Ming,that sounds interesting,send me a picture if you would ;D

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: krsilber on July 28, 2011, 08:14:28 PM

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The colours on the transfer would of course be enamel that fuses to the glass.

Newman says transfers were done with metallic oxide-based inks, which were fired on.  Maybe enamels were used as well, but I imagine they would be raised slightly, as enamels are when directly applied.

Looks more French than Bohemian to me.

Title: Re: Art nouveau,transfer or enamel?
Post by: Frank on July 28, 2011, 08:57:15 PM

I think French is distinctly possible as is a lamp-base. I would also suggest that it is post WW2 maybe 70s. I have seen these before and I am sure as new... as I used to visit Paris a lot in my dealing days then that is most likely where I saw them. In the 80s they sold a lot of lighting that was loose reproduction of past-times.