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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: rosieposie on August 16, 2011, 03:02:11 PM
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This beautiful glass panelled light fitting dates back to the '30s....can anyone help to identify the country of origin and the maker please?
The framework and ceiling plate is possibly silver but would be called white metal as there are no marks on it. The fitting consists of 4 side panels which feature an oustretched lady and on either side are flowers moulded into the glass, with 4 corner panels and a panel below.
This belongs to someone else, not me (sadly!) and I am asking on her behalf for your help.
Any questions may take a day or two to get answers, but please feel free to ask and I will get back ASAP.
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:thud:
It's fabulous, I'm overcome with lust. :mrgreen:
Is it Uranium?
(I can't help, sorry.)
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Me too
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Walsh Walsh did some lighting panels in frosted glass but i am not sure about that one , i will find the book later . :t: The frame looks a little similar . :t: Je suis knackered . jp
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That is gorgeous! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (But has one of the panels been replaced?)
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Nice, the ladies hairstyle in the panel is very like the hairstyle of the lady in the Lalique 6 dancers (six danseuses lamp shade). I wonder??
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That is gorgeous! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (But has one of the panels been replaced?)
Not sure Anik...I did wonder.
I have asked for more pictures and the dimensions....will list as soon as I get them.
It is a beautiful piece of lighting....if only.... :mrgreen:
Any help you can give will be so appreciated jp......I'll even give spelling lessons in exchange, n'est pas?
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Some more pictures sent to me....I hope they will help identify the maker.
The measurements are:
Side panel - Length: 21.2cm at the longest point, 20cm at the shortest
Width: 19.7cm at the widest point, 10cm at the narrowest
Corner piece - Length: 21cm
Width: 6.5cm at the widest point, 3.5cm at the narrowest
Depth: 5.5cm at the deepest point
Base - Width: 15.5cm
Diagonal: 18.3cm
Depth: 5.5cm at the deepest point
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Rosie i looked thru the Walsh book not init . isit . jp
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Thanks for doing that jp....if you think of any other possible maker, do please say, as I would love to find out who made it....it is so beautiful.
Rosie :sun:
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There isn't a lot in the Walsh book, so I wouldn't rule it out as a contender, as the period is right (1920s). France and America are other options. Are there are marks anywhere on any of the glass?
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Yes i agree with Christine it still could be Walsh the fittings do have a similar look , if Eric is at Cambridge i will ask him to look at the forum . I am surprised Our Bernard hasnt been in lately ,( i hope he is OK ) and he does specialise in pressed glass .
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... I am surprised Our Bernard hasnt been in lately , i hope he is OK and he specialises in pressed glass .
JP — Thanks, yes, I am OK. We've had several weeks off camping, so the last few days have been devoted to sorting out our camping equipment and overgrown garden. While I know English pressed and I started in glass with it, it's going a bit far to say that I specialise in it today. Counting stock boxes yields a rough ratio of about 20% pressed — 80% handmade. I have 3½ shelves of recent acquisitions, none of which is pressed. Incidentally, JP, one whole shelf of the 3½ is Whitefriars, which I do my best to avoid!
Rosie — I only know of two certain British manufacturers of this fabulous Deco lighting — Hailwood & Ackroyd and Walsh. All three of the H&A pieces I've seen have been fully and boldly marked, so they're unlikely. So Walsh is a possibility, but most Walsh pieces are marked, usually quite faintly. I'm sure you would have found a mark, even a faint one. So I think it's more likely to be French. The two authorities on this type of Walsh glass are Eric Reynolds and Charles Hajdamach.
Sorry I can't be of more help,
Bernard C. 8)
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Thank you jp and Bernard, I really appreciate the time you are taking helping with this.....it isn't mine, so I don't have access to look at it in detail to see if it is marked.
Do either of you have a picture I could see to know what a Walsh mark looks like, then perhaps I could ask the owner to have a really good look.
Were they usually marked where the mark might be hidden by the silver frame, or would it be hidden in the pattern?
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:thup: :thup: :thup: :mrgreen:
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Rosie a lot of Walsh is not marked , i think i may have Erics email somewhere but i cant look before tonight as spending the day in Hozzie :srn: If i forget give me a nudge . :kissy: one for your john dont want him feeling left out . ;)
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There is probably a mark somewhere on the metal too, likely to be out of sight.
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Rosie a lot of Walsh is not marked ...
Rosie — Apologies — what I meant was that this VESTA pressed Deco lighting by Walsh is usually, but not always marked. Reynolds notes the mark "G.Sc.R.fec." on the The Twelve Labours of Hercules lighting panels. Reynolds dates it to 1929–1932.
In general, apart from registration lozenges and numbers and a very rare export label, no pre–1926 Walsh glass is marked.
Bernard C. 8)
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and despite having a small collection of Walsh, I haven't yet got a marked piece.
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Wanna buy some Christine, i have several sets decanter and glasses mostly Kenilworth i was intending to list them soon . jp
I am looking for one pan top champagne in kenilworth as one dropped me and broke . :usd:
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:hi: Rosie, thanks for the alert!
It's a very beautiful lamp, but I haven't got any idea about its origin, I'm afraid.
:usd:
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Unless they're uranium, no thanks JP
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Thank you for popping in Pamela, and respondidg to my SOS!! :sun:
Thank you also, Christine, Bernard, Frank & jp....all your input is appreciated :kissy:......Bernard, did you mean to put a link in for the Vesta light you mentioned?
It would be really lovely to find out who made this beautiful lamp. :X:
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... Bernard, did you mean to put a link in for the Vesta light you mentioned? ...
Rosie — VESTA was Walsh's trade mark for this pressed Deco lighting range, registered in 1929, so should really be written VESTA®. Note that it seems to be all capitals in this context, so Vesta and vesta may be incorrect. The word Vesta is part of the name of the Walsh glassworks — The Soho and Vesta Glass Works, and was earlier used in another trade mark Vesta Venetian, registered 1907, which expired in 1921. No link, I'm afraid.
Reading Eric's page on Walsh trade marks, at the bottom is a puzzling piece indicating some sort of connection with Holophane in the early 1930s. Certainly Walsh's extremely high standard of production of VESTA® and other pressed glass would have made them an obvious candidate for the manufacture of Holophane prismatic lighting. It would be nice to think that the fine two-piece Holophane prismatic shade that lights this room might have been made by Walsh and not Davidson or Chance, as I had previously assumed. See Stewart & Stewart for more on Holophane.
Bernard C. 8)
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Is it too soon to give this lamp a gentle 'bump'?
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Yes.
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I'm having a :pb: day! :cry: