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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Abuzzzz on August 22, 2011, 09:56:26 PM
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I tried to read all your posts about Royo signed glass but it was so extensive, and I couldn't find what was the most recent. I purchased this little elephant at an auction. Any information you could share would be greatly appreciated.
Kathy
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I have been collecting Gordiola for about 25 years without ever seeing an Ele then about 18 months ago like buses two came along a few weeks apart on ebay so they are not common i believe they sold about 15 to 20 quid each , Gordiola is becoming better known now when i used to type Gordiola glass into ebay it alwas used to change to Gorilla glass .
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so is this pressed glass or freeform? Are there any seams in it?
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This is pressed glass, any idea of the age of these pieces?
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Yes there is a seam around the center between the feet
thanks for the help johnphillip & Ivo
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This is very very very weird. The blank is called "Elefantino" and is produced by Stiver in Italy. Now this would be the first time we see non-Gordiola glass decorated by Royo - we do not even know where he produced, just that it was in Cataluña. Stiver set up production in the mid 1960s - it is believed the Animaletti series is one of the oldest. As we still have no concept of when Royo worked, we now know it must have been at least into the late sixties....
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I found these on a Google search, but can't enlarge the picture....they say 1920's???
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/an-unusual-and-highly-decorative-pair-of-amber-1-c-82e28e80ad
Also, did you see this one on eBay? It has a sticker so I thought it might be worth mentioning.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130551622383&clk_rvr_id=258455206110
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From the 2000 Stiver catalogue. Either Royo mass produced these in the sixties and a whole nest of little elephants has just turned up, or someone is faking these big time.
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Maybe neither, the trunks 'point' in different directions.
John
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http://www.wisdomquotes.com/quote/a-e-housman.html
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;D
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I got this one at a weekly auction in Hartselle Alabama. To my eye the enameling seems inferior. I have seen so many fakes of other things lately is sure would seem somebody is up to something if that many of these surface at the same time. But then maybe someone found a stash. Does anyone know if the oldest Royo are better quaity enameling?
I sure thank you for all your help. The feet under this one look just like the ones others have shared on this thread.
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I can't remember where I read it now, but Royo worked into the 80s. That the enamel work is inferior indicates that there is a good chance it was Royo. Enamel on his pieces are thinner and generally less attractive than the ones decorated by Genis Cirera. I have the feeling that Royo was a bit younger than Cirera and that both did the bulk of their work in Barcelona using blanks bought from Gordiola. It is difficult to find any information on Royo, however, so I am just guessing based on when they stopped making glass.
It is apparent that the elephant is molded. It may be that the mold was copied by Stiver or sold to Stiver. The color of the elephant looks very much like Gordiola. I have seen a few other molds pass around the European countries, so it wouldn't be unusual for both places to have the same design.
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Additional info: gordiola never did pressed glass, stiver produced every conceivable glass colour. The mystery of Royo is still unsolved...
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The links that Rosie gave above give "1920s" probably only as a continuation of an idea that Moser were somehow involved. The Invaluable page has, in the description: "... attributed to Moser who produced designs for the Spanish market in the 1920s." And I suspect the eBay listing simply uses a similar assumption that has become well engrained over the years.
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The links that Rosie gave above give "1920s" probably only as a continuation of an idea that Moser were somehow involved. The Invaluable page has, in the description: "... attributed to Moser who produced designs for the Spanish market in the 1920s." And I suspect the eBay listing simply uses a similar assumption that has become well engrained over the years.
A bit like my Chinese birds being described as Murano. :grrr:
I hate urban myths, and now I feel badly that I might has just inadvertantly perpetuated one.....sorry. :pb:
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You are in good company, Rosie. Gary Baldwin's books on Moser glass have probably been the biggest thing promoting that these were probably made by Moser in the 1920s for the Spanish marketplace. Whoever came up with that idea, I don't know. It was easily debunked by just asking Moser. They may not have had the ease of access when Baldwin was writing his books. I am sorry that these things get put down in print. Many people on eBay still list them as Moser.
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Thank you so much for all your help. :hiclp: :rah: