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Title: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 01:26:02 PM
Looking for some info on this glassmaker please.  I bought a very nice piece of glass signed by him but can't find any info at the mo.
Many thanks
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 01:59:24 PM
Images of said vase...I love this vase...it reminds me of a Michael Harris Fish vase slightly.  Dated Nov 74, so possibly been influenced by.
Blown from the top and has a cut and polished rim.  The 'straps' are on both side and go under the base across the middle of the base.
Colouring and inclusions effect are gorgeous.
About 6 1/2" wide (16cm) by 5 1/4" tall (13m)
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 28, 2011, 02:12:51 PM
It strikes me it's very sophisticated for '74 - I think I'd be looking to america or the antipodes to start with.
I've gone through the index of my "American Studio Glass 1960-1990" but his name isn't there - this doesn't mean it's not in the book - I've already discovered Wayne Filan is written about in the main text, but he's not in the index.

Why do so many great books have lousy indices???? :grrr:

I find the vase slightly sinister! It reminds me of trussed up mummies or something a bit insecty (lousy!) under a microscope.
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 02:17:08 PM
you are way ahead of me Sue in the collecting stakes ..and thank you for looking - I don't have that book.  The guy I bought it from said America had been suggested, so I was thinking that's a possible and of course, the very word Hobart made me think Australia, Herman studio/student, but I've not managed to unearth anything so far.
Also the signature is really nicely done, I have to say possibly one of the best engraved sigs I've seen (obviously not including M.Harris  ;D )
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
lol, I've just seen your descriptor of my beautiful vase  :24:  very well written but not at all true in the flesh... ;D
I'm now looking at it and seeing a headless armless woman with a shawl over her shoulders  :help:
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 28, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
A (-n evil) thought I had when I saw the signature was that it looks very like "normal" legible writing - and with the detail of the day being included, could it possibly have been marked, in a possessive way by the first person who bought it?

This is not unknown - my Mdina tricorn cobalt charger was clearly  :24: signed "R B Joslin, London, 1971".
These scratchings have been professionally removed.
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
done by a dentist with a diamond point drill  ;D
well, I don't know enough about sig engraving (dremel, diamond point or whatever it may be) to know, but I think it's done properly whoever did it.  It's not a scratched on thing, pretty small, neat and placed well sort of thing.
'nother closer pic of sig. Your thoughts?  Am I wrong?
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 28, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
Maybe it's the open round letters which made me think it's just a bit child-like?????
It just doesn't look like an "official pawmark".

(it evoked the same feeling in me as reading a child-like address, finished with; Europe, Planet Earth, The Solar System, The Universe....")

I may well be completely wrong!
It is, however, a very sophisticed piece for '74 - perhaps it's the mismatch between the sophistication of the piece and the unsophisticated appearance of the signature which is messing with my thinking - which is all just gut stuff.
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 03:13:19 PM
You could be right.  Another thought I had was I was wondering if it was a degree piece?  hence the detail in the date? p.s. my photo is hugely enlarged which may be what is making it look so 'round'.  I shall do a pic of the base hopefully showing the sig placement.
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 28, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
That certainly is another possibility  :hiclp: Good thinking - it certainly would be a good reason for the day to be mentioned - an emerging artist who perhaps hasn't finalised his "pawmark design".
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: glassobsessed on August 28, 2011, 04:19:27 PM
It's lovely isn't it M, I cuddled it before putting it back on the shelf this morning. A lovely tactile well made piece that had me thinking 'dipped wings' from about twenty feet away....

John
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 06:46:47 PM
 :24: I've been waiting for you to comment  ;D  I knew you'd have seen it.
It was torrential this morning, and it's the only thing I bought :cry:  I went all round but most people hadn't laid out as it kept tipping down.  If I 'd not seen it I'd have driven home with nothing and I was in two minds about it as I practically couldn't see it it was so covered in water, but the date swung it  :)  Glad you like it.
Sue, I've checked the method of writing with other signed pieces I have and it looks as though it was done with the same implement.  So.... :X: it's a graduation piece or similar.

m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: glassobsessed on August 28, 2011, 06:54:15 PM
I think my feet are still damp.... That was the worst weather I have yet to experience at a flea market. Enjoyed the day though, plenty of sunshine on the way home but only once we had crossed the Severn Bridge. :sun:

John
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2011, 07:06:36 PM
I nearly didn't go, but in the end decided to brave it.  Glad I did as I love the vase.
m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: ahremck on September 05, 2011, 06:56:31 AM
Have no one of that name in my list of Australian artists.  The few who were around at that time are generally well known.  My thought was USA/Canada as a first impression.  Whatever it is a very nice object.

Ross
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on September 15, 2023, 04:37:10 PM
Came across this vase again looking for another as you do :)

Having re read the thread Sue ... gong for you - I think it's been influenced by a pupa  see here for pictorial evidence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupa

Still looking for Dave Hobart Nov 6th 1974 but Greg may have solved my other mystery!

m
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 15, 2023, 04:58:56 PM
I saw Greg had come up trumps for you - I never forgot that piece.  ;D
I can't see intagram either.
Title: Re: has anyone heard of a Glass maker called Dave Hobart? c.early 1970's please
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2023, 10:48:38 PM
It strikes me it's very sophisticated for '74 - I think I'd be looking to america or the antipodes to start with. ...


I agree.  It's very well and precisely made and the rim finish is good etc.  I love the form and the decor actually.  Just reading about my other vase and read on as you do, on Mark Hill's site.  He shows a number of early Fish vases here
https://markhillpublishing.com/michael-harris-fish-the-earliest-example-yet/
and if you look at the purple and brown one and in your mind, cut off the neck as per mine, it's the same or very similar shape.  Is this a kind of shape that's easy to achieve?  I think the vase appears to be very accomplished.  So who was Dave Hobart (or who was the Dave who was from Hobart/ in Hobart? ) 6th November 1974?  Was he at the RCA maybe?