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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Jeffingtons on September 02, 2011, 02:47:14 PM
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I'm a bit of a Murano pudding but i think I have this identified. Any experts able to confirm? It's 11cm across at it's widest points and has a smooth ground out pontil mark
Any help much appreciated as ever
Ta
J
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I think these might be Japanese, though I'm not sure.
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>:D I used to keep my green scrubby kitchen thingies in mine - so no, it's not an ashtray. :wsh:
Sorry, I don't know. I had thought Alrose, but am always open to correction.
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It's an ashtray made by Kamei of Japan. They made this design in many colors and decorations. The rim is very distinctive. The ashtrays are often sold as Murano on eBay.
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ooh fabulous Anita! thank you. I had no idea these had been id'd :)
m
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Sweet. I had no idea what it was when I bought it today. Curiosity as much as anything was the deciding factor though lust played it's part as usual. My first manga glass
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Seen a few over the years, one today as a matter of fact with a black & white M R M label marked Mount Royal Foreign Merchandise.
Chris
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Chris do you know who MRM Mount Royal are?
I just did a quick search on the board and they are mentioned on paperweights, but I couldn't find any info on them.
There was a mention of MRM meaning Mount Royal Merchandise so would they be importers maybe rather than producers perhaps?
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Tried various searches and too came up with nothing except an odd apple and pear with the label nothing on the company will purchase it tomorrow if it's still there if only to dispel the Alrose myth maybe? it was only a couple of pounds in a charity shop, the label looked quite old could be anything Chinese, Italian, Czech exporters maybe Japanese if Anita has a labelled example to compare.
Chris
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I looked at some paperweights and pears that have the MRM Mount Royal, Foreign label and thought they looked Chinese. I have the feeling MRM is just an import company, so it wouldn't tell us anything about the makers unless it had the country of origin on it.
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I found a Mount Royal in Montreal. I've tried to make sense of the MRM. Mount Royal Montreal? Mount Royal Museum? I couldn't find any listings that had the label. We only know the things were foreign to Mount Royal, so apparently imported.
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Yeah came up with the same results, surely they must have been registered somewhere? quite a few companies like Hardy and Jones and Jaffe Rose were I think based in the UK from the 30s to the 50s imported from various countries including Sweden, Italy and Czechoslovakia and all come up in searches, for obvious reasons post world war 2 exporters from certain countries used the word 'foreign' not sure if China would come into that category? not sure about the bowls but my initial thoughts for the paperweights were Chinese too. Pretty sure the 'M' stands merchandise the label read Mount Royal Merchandise MRM foreign
Chris
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I did find a Mount Royal Importer/Exporter that is registered in Sri Lanka...most likely not the one mentioned here although they may be. The limited information I could find is they deal with telecommunication parts and spices...but then again, who knows what else as there company name also pops on infodrive India under the Glass Importers and Glass Buyers for Sri Lanka.
I'll put it on my further search list but I wouldn't expect to much more in regards to information at this stage...
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The ashtray in the original post looks like one from Kamei, so I still hold to that. They are very abundant. The one you saw could have been imported by MRM from Japan. Makes sense to me.
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I agree. Foreign was generally used on items exported from Japan and Germany to the UK in the 20/30 or so years post WW2 and Mount Royal Merchandise is almost certainly an importer or an exporter.
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Hopefully dispels the Alrose theory for good......
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JaV9eIRQuHc/TsT3QfC-xvI/AAAAAAAAUic/aQb0CLyXOME/s576/SDC10817.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J6YK4Wgih7g/TsT3UExgkRI/AAAAAAAAUfE/scV2KEg9Ylc/s640/SDC10818.JPG
Poor quality not at all well made....
Chris
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Confused. If Mount Royal is an import company, they could have bought from anywhere, right? And really, I don't even know what Alrose is. Is it a glass company or an import company?
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Hi Anita, all I can really tell you is these bowls and similar 2 coloured vases have been listed on eBay over here for years describing them made in Murano Italy by Alrose or sometimes described made by Holmegaard the quality is pretty poor or at least this example I have is?
I know a little about Holmegaard and even less about Murano and nothing at all about MRM probably an export/import label has already suggested not a clue where they come from China/Japan? and nowhere near the quality you would expect.
Chris
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=murano+alrose&_sacat=See-All-Categories