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Title: What is this? Bohemian? - ID = Chlum u Trebone
Post by: Jeffingtons on September 10, 2011, 08:38:32 PM
Saw this, loved it, bought it.  Described as 70's bohemian on ebay but I have no idea if that's true.  About 20 cms tall, not heavy but not light either. Very minor wear on base and gold but in generally perfect condition.

Haven't found anything similar on the internet and would love to know where it comes from and when it was produced. Any ideas?

Ta
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Jeffingtons on December 31, 2019, 06:23:07 PM
Update on this.  Picked up a similar one at some point over the years so now have two. Only saw one other until last week when I saw another variant with the label posted below. Definitively places them as mid-century Czechoslovakian. The gilding makes me think Borske Sklo, mainly because I don't know any other Czech glassmakers using gilding so prominently.
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: catshome on December 31, 2019, 07:32:11 PM
Logo on label attributed to Crystalex on this site

http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/marka-c.htm

National corporation Formed in 1974, which would fit the very 70s design of your pieces.  More information here

https://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/bohemian_glass/crystalexglass_home.htm

Not sure it gets you to exactly which company made them though.

Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Jeffingtons on February 25, 2020, 05:54:49 PM
Spotted these in Mark Hill's revised sklo book. Jan Gabrhel Garnet and Gold range, introduced in 1964 so pre-Crystalex.
https://markhillpublishing.com/product/sklo-czech-glass-design-1950s-70s/
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 25, 2020, 07:18:14 PM
Not necessarily. The design may be pre-Crystalex but the item might not be
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: catshome on February 25, 2020, 07:43:11 PM
Introduced in 1964, but possibly still manufactured after 1974.  Gabrhel designed for Cesky Kristal, and Cesky Kristal became part of Crystalex - according to the info on the link in my earlier thread.  They're very different to other Jan Gabrhel pieces on the web, so well done finding them in the book.

(Posted before I saw Christine's reply)
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Jeffingtons on February 25, 2020, 11:53:34 PM

Not necessarily. The design may be pre-Crystalex but the item might not be
I was of course referring to the design rather than manufacturer 😁😁😁
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Jeffingtons on February 28, 2020, 12:42:20 PM

Spotted these in Mark Hill's revised sklo book. Jan Gabrhel Garnet and Gold range, introduced in 1964 so pre-Crystalex.
https://markhillpublishing.com/product/sklo-czech-glass-design-1950s-70s/
Realised I have missed one important piece of information off this - factory is Chlum u Trebone
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Tigerchips on February 29, 2020, 05:25:08 PM
Spotted these in Mark Hill's revised sklo book. Jan Gabrhel Garnet and Gold range, introduced in 1964 so pre-Crystalex.
https://markhillpublishing.com/product/sklo-czech-glass-design-1950s-70s/

He says these are scarce. I have some doubt there. Saw one a few months back on ebay. Saw one on a collectables forum recently. I bought one a few months back, and i'm fairly sure i've seen them a few times before.
Title: Re: What is this? Bohemian?
Post by: Jeffingtons on March 01, 2020, 01:53:31 PM
He says these are scarce. I have some doubt there. Saw one a few months back on ebay. Saw one on a collectables forum recently. I bought one a few months back, and i'm fairly sure i've seen them a few times before.
It's relative I guess. They pop up on eBay and Etsy sporadically but not with the same regularity as other midcentury glass. I've only seen 5 shapes so far, but he says there's 8 different vases. I've also never seen a lidded item. There are designs by other makers with similar gilt bands and decorated panels. Barthmann for example.