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Title: heavy clear/green vase: VSL? ID = VSL, "Cezanne", C1938
Post by: BrunoD on September 20, 2011, 10:11:58 AM

I inherited this vase from my aunt. My first guess would be that it is from Val Saint Lambert, buy I didn't find any similar objects yet.

No markings.
heigth: 23 cm
width at top: 18 cm
weigth: +5 kg
thickness of glass: 17mm

It was very difficult to make some acceptable photographs, because of the internal reflections inside the glass.

Hope you can help me with confirming the ID and perhaps giving some indication of year of production.

Many thanks
BrunoD

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: Greg. on September 20, 2011, 10:28:39 AM

Does remind me of VSL, if not VSL my second guess would be Bohemian.

Here are a couple other cut VSL vases:

 http://www.eldreds.com/sales/detail.php?itemID=164315

http://www.idhome.co.uk/deco-saint-lambert-green-glass-vase-p-522.html

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: Ivo on September 20, 2011, 10:36:36 AM

Style and colour are VSL but it is not in the full catalogue from 10 years ago - so it would probably be older, perhaps 60s or 70s. I give you 80% chance that VSL is the correct attribution.

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: BrunoD on September 21, 2011, 06:47:58 AM

I found two VSL vases with a more or less similar design, although completely different form.
The vases are situated in the 20s - Art Deco.

http://www.antiques-belgium.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=79&category_id=16&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2&lang=en

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Vase-Art-Deco-du-Val-Saint-Lambert-/130577044496?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_23&hash=item1e66ff9410

Could my vase be VSL 20s-30s?

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: astrid on September 24, 2011, 10:55:23 AM

Hans from www.artglasleiden.nl (http://www.artglasleiden.nl) has a similar looking one (but not quite the same) in his collection that he thinks is Val st. Lambert around 1935.

Here is his version:

http://www.artglassleiden.nl/archives/category/collectie/1900-1945/belgie/valstlamber/geslepen-glas-valstlamber-belgie-1900-1945-collectie/page/7 (http://www.artglassleiden.nl/archives/category/collectie/1900-1945/belgie/valstlamber/geslepen-glas-valstlamber-belgie-1900-1945-collectie/page/7)

(I mean the blue one)

Astrid

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: BrunoD on September 25, 2011, 09:25:55 AM

I found an "prune"coloured version of my vase, by googling on "val saint lambert art deco":

http://www.mallettantiques.com/Public/Stock/View.aspx?ref=O3A0083

Val-Saint-Lambert
1926
Vase 'Cezanne'

Thanks everybody for all your help!

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: bablo on September 25, 2011, 09:34:37 AM

Hi there,

Beautiful vase. Definately VSL. The model is named Cezanne and was made in 1938.

I added a picture taken from my VSL catalogue.



\bablo

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: bablo on September 25, 2011, 09:38:51 AM

About the designer. In earlier posts I saw an example of a VSL vase which was made by Graffart, but this design is probably from Joseph Simon, although the catalogue doesn't say. See also:
http://www.glass-wiki.net/Joseph-simon.ashx?HL=simon (http://www.glass-wiki.net/Joseph-simon.ashx?HL=simon)



\bablo

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: BrunoD on September 25, 2011, 10:46:37 AM

Hoi bablo


I appreciate your help!

If the Cezanne vase is in the '38 catalogue, do you have any idea why Mallet Antiques situates it in 1926?

I found examples of other vases, all with those large dots, attributed to Joseph Mallet:
http://www.mallettantiques.com/Public/Stock/View.aspx?ref=O3B0130
http://www.markwest-glass.com/DynamicPages/Enlargement.php?StockID=3571


Bruno

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: bablo on September 26, 2011, 12:48:05 PM

Bruno,

It could be that the Cezanne vase in the 1938 catalogue is a reproduction of an earlier design. 1926 was the year that J. Simon started his career at VSL. So technically it's possible, but somehow I doubt it the vase was made earlier than 1938.

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I found examples of other vases, all with those large dots, attributed to Joseph Mallet:
</quote>

I think you mean "Joseph Simon" here :)



\bablo

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL?
Post by: BrunoD on September 26, 2011, 01:15:34 PM

 :-[ Joseph Simon of course  :-[

Title: Re: heavy clear/green vase: VSL? ID = VSL, "Cezanne", C1938
Post by: Cathy B on October 02, 2011, 05:04:08 AM

 :hiclp: :hiclp: Fantastic info, bablo! Thanks for your help, and welcome to the board!  :smg: