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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Bernard C on September 22, 2011, 11:47:17 AM

Title: Optic 12-ribbed amber vase with applied handles and decoration for Id please
Post by: Bernard C on September 22, 2011, 11:47:17 AM

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H. 5½" 14.3cm, d. approx. 5" 12.5cm, w. 1lb 3oz 546g.   Rim neatly ground and polished.   No pontil mark.   Plenty of genuine base wear.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your interest,

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Optic 12-ribbed amber vase with applied handles and decoration for Id please
Post by: keith on September 22, 2011, 05:59:00 PM

Have a similar piece in amber with blue 'trailing' I think Boulton and Mills were proposed as a possible maker.

Title: Re: Optic 12-ribbed amber vase with applied handles and decoration for Id please
Post by: keith on September 22, 2011, 11:44:11 PM

Found a picture....

Title: Re: Optic 12-ribbed amber vase with applied handles and decoration for Id please
Post by: Bernard C on September 23, 2011, 12:21:39 PM

Keith — I found your original query here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28799.0.html), and noticed that Ivo had identified it as Service George Sand by Cristallerie de Portieux, Portieux, France.   I've had a browse around mainly French websites, looking at examples of this range.

My conclusion is that there are too many similarities between Service George Sand by Cristallerie de Portieux and my vase (and yours) for them to be likely to be anything else.   Note the same optic rib mould and the ground and polished rim, for example.   I've not found such applied decoration on examples on French websites, but it seems to me likely that such pieces were made for export, and may not be well known in France.

As for date, it's difficult.   I'm with "early C20", going on the style and base wear.

Finally, Keith, I'm always very wary of old unsupported Boulton & Mills attributions, and tend to regard them as a pompous way of saying little more than "Don't know", or, to be generous, "possibly Stourbridge".

Grateful thanks, Keith and Ivo.

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Optic 12-ribbed amber vase with applied handles and decoration for Id please
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 23, 2011, 02:54:43 PM

I don't think Ivo actually identified it; rather he provided another option based on colour.

Title: Re: Optic 12-ribbed amber vase with applied handles and decoration for Id please
Post by: Bernard C on September 23, 2011, 03:29:15 PM

Christine — Thanks, you're right, Ivo just suggested Portieux.   I've identified my vase to my satisfaction.

Bernard C.  8)