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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 04:56:26 PM

Title: Glass salt ID - Registered to Whittingham & Percival, Manchester
Post by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 04:56:26 PM

I have a glass salt cellar from England that has a mark in the bottom, which I am hoping someone can give me some information on.

It is a diamond shape with an oval at the top point with 111 inside it.  On the left hand point ther is a number 2, on the right hand point a v and on the bottom point an m.  In the middle is a capital R with a small d underlined twice.

Thanks for any help you can give me. :?:

Title: Glass salt
Post by: pamela on February 23, 2006, 05:26:11 PM

welcome to the board Susan! I am sure quite a lot of our contributors here can help - I can't I am afraid :?

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Della on February 23, 2006, 05:30:22 PM

Hi Susan,
What you describe is a registration lozenge.
Making it that the design of your piece was registered in June 1876.
Under the III there should also be a number, that will give the day in June when the design of the piece was registered.
Should the number be a 6 or 14 then the registration belongs to Whittingham & Percival, Manchester.
For the rest, I am sorry, I cannot help, but maybe others can.
A picture would also be nice. :D

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 06:16:32 PM

Thank you so much for the information.  There is a number 14 underneath the oval at the top of the triangle.  I had no idea that it was that old.  It belonged to my grandmother.  Now I can do some further research into the company.  Thank you again.

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Della on February 23, 2006, 06:18:09 PM

P.S. Susan.
That would be Manchester, England......not USA.  :D

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 06:20:25 PM

Correct.  That is where I am from, and the salt came with me to America from my home in Kent.

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Della on February 23, 2006, 06:22:02 PM

How we English folks get around.  :lol:

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 06:22:42 PM

Also, I would love to send a picture but don't know how.  I will work on it over the weekend and see if I can get one taken and send it.  I have been letting my granddaughter play with the cellar, but I think now I will put it safely away.  I wonder if it has any monetary value? :D

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Anne on February 23, 2006, 06:23:52 PM

Hi Susan, you may find this page interesting as it explains all about the registration lozenges, and shows you how to decipher what they mean: http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/lozkey.htm (http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/lozkey.htm).

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 06:29:57 PM

I am overwhelmed by everyone's help.  Thank you all so much.

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Susan GAle on February 23, 2006, 07:26:05 PM

After two hours of internet searching, I can't find any reference anywhere to Whittingham & Percival of Manchester, England.  Anyone have any suggestions on wherelse to look? :cry:

Title: Glass salt
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 23, 2006, 08:13:27 PM

They may have been a wholesaler, a retailer or an importer not a maufacturer, in which case you won't find much